Buck 184 "Buckmaster" Webpage

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I had compiled a ton of information about the Buck 184 "Buckmaster" knife and I have finally got around to putting it in the web. Please visit my page and let me know if anybody has anything they can add or ((gasp)) that I have anything that is incorrect!

I have some additional pictures that I plan to add but my real goal was to capture the history of this great knife. Please see my page by CLICKING HERE.

Thanks,
Quarterbore
 
Quarterbore,
You have done a lot of work and it looks great! I would be happy to help you with some more detailed historic info on the 184 if you want. Drop me an email.
By the way, your right when you say the 188 will be more work, oh boy!

Take care,
 
QUARTERBORE

Nice Site. Very well done.

I do have a little additional information for your consideration.

My 184 is stamped with the patent #4622707 on the left side of the blade. if you go to http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...s1='4622707'.WKU.&OS=PN/4622707&RS=PN/4622707 you will notice that the patent application was for a survival knife with grappling capabilities. I did a search and the word grapple or its derivatives is mentioned 82 times.

I am not arguing with you or BUCK about not using it as a grappling hook. My only intent is to pass along information.

Am looking foreward to the expansion of your 184 page.
 
Old Coastie,

I agree with your assesment as the Patent says:

(See: http://www.quarterbore.com/library/pdf_files/us04622707.pdf)

The survival knife has certain characteristic which were important at this stage of my thinking. The survival knife has a comfortable handle for easy gripping. the survival knife is readily thrown by the handle and can travel a good distance controllably, with practice. The survival knife already has a ring at the pommel or end of the handle to which a line may be attached. Therefore a survival knife with its usual weight of 10 to 24 oz. can be a very suitably weighted line carrier. It lacks any way to secure the knife temporarily to any object so as to support any load.

I determined that if at least one rearwardly directed sharpened member could be attached to a survival knife to act as a grapple point, that the survival knife could function as a very valuable grappling device.

{snip... }

The quillon or hand guard is located at nearly the center of gravity of the survival knife and its tips provide a point for possible attachment of one or two grapples provided the quillon has sufficient strength to transfer load to the knife handle without bending. Given a quillon dimensioned to support a load of 600 pounds and a thickness sufficient to provide 5 or 6 thread turns, I determined that the quillon can function to secure a grapple. Since the quillon usually extends from both the top and bottom edges of the knife blade, two grapples can be attached, one to the top and the other toward the bottom, thereby increasing the probability of a good hook being obtained on the initial throw of the knife with the grapples attached.

{snip...}

I have also determined that it is possible to produce a skeletal type survival knife in which the grapples pivot into engagement with the handle portion when not in use and form a rounded handle. When pivoted outwardly, the grapples function fully to make hook-like engagement with any object it encounters when the casting line is drawn in.

Each of these embodiment provide effective grapple capability for survival knives.

Now, perhaps we can argue about the language of this patent as it does refer to securing an object, but it also refers to a casting line! Now, I sure wouldn't use my Buckmaster (unless last resort) even with the sheath attached, but it is interesting to note that the patent claims an ability to suport upto 600-pounds!

I think I have the page close to being completed. I have the Patent and it is posted off of my BUCKMASTER page www.Quarterbore.com

As an aside, the M9 Bayonet Page is really getting better as you can SEE HERE!
 
Very cool! The Buckmaster has a special place in my heart. It was first big knife, and went on many a camping and backpacking trip. Nice site.
 
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