Buck 300 series "shield" attatchment

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The shield appears to be soldered to the liner, instead of inlayed into the scale which they were previously. I bet this adds a lot to the structural integrity of the knife.
Does anyone know when this started? 300bucks maybe?
Rather than try and remove it and risk damaging the knife, I worked around it. :)



 
I say it's either soldered or cast into it. See the lack of a seam where it meets the liner? There's no evidence of pins inside the liner.

Here it is finished

 
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When Buck assumed manufacture of these knives from Camillus around 1985, they used the "BUCK" shield and those shields were inlayed as were the previous Camillus produced models. I believe it was in 1988, when Buck subsequently changed over to the hammer/anvil shield, the shield became an integral part of the frame itself.

EDIT TO CORRECT: Upon further reflection, it probably was closer to 1990 when Buck moved to the bolsters and liners being one unit, all stainless, rather, than brass liners.
 
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That's pretty cool. I wonder if all the Buck made 300s are like that.
Here's a Camillus made one missing its regular-type shield.



ETA: Beautiful mod on that knife, JAG!
 
Tin Sue said:
When Buck assumed manufacture of these knives from Camillus around 1985, they used the "BUCK" shield and those shields were inlayed as were the previous Camillus produced models. I believe it was in 1988, when Buck subsequently changed over to the hammer/anvil shield, the shield became an integral part of the frame itself.
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So they have been intergral since about 1988, is that correct?
Thank you Tin Sue
 
Upon further reflection, it probably was closer to 1990 when Buck moved to the bolsters and liners being one unit, all stainless, rather, than brass liners.
 
How about the most current Buck 301? Is the hammer/anvil shield soldered like in the first picture?
 
Tin Sue said:
Upon further reflection, it probably was closer to 1990 when Buck moved to the bolsters and liners being one unit, all stainless, rather, than brass liners.
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Thank you. That information will come in handy!
 
I bet you had to squint to cut around that.

Shields, Round end shields are Buck made, the pillar shield are cast in place as are the bolsters. If you are looking at a photo of front, note the SS spring rivet and the hammer on the shield has a straight shaft and closed end. Earlier shields showed taper shaft and open ended. The one piece liner/shield/bolster was 90 or 91, by memory, but flat ground blades went on to the 1990's ended when the Edge 2000 program design took over. The flat ground blades of the late 80's went to the top of spine of the clip blade, in the late 90's a flat edge spine was made about down to the bottom of the nail nic, then the flat tapered blade went to the cutting edge from there.

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Here are 303s top is 90 on down into 2000 (far right knife). You can see the flat on top of the spine, and you see how a little more polishing was taking place back then. About the middle knife is when the flat blade world started easing out. I believe just about every one of these shields are solids.
 
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THe escutcheon shield is not soldered on or pinned on. It is one piece. I've sanded them off. This was the only way I could remove it. DM
 
Only black Valox sawcut scales have the solid shield pillar. All Dymondwoods have glued in shield 'plates'. Go to JAGs top and second photo, you can see how the Valox scales are made with plastic rivets that go thru the liner holes and are heat riveted, that is the plastic rivet end is melted and flattened against the inside of the liner to hold it in place. 300
 
300Bucks said:
Only black Valox sawcut scales have the solid shield pillar. All Dymondwoods have glued in shield 'plates'. Go to JAGs top and second photo, you can see how the Valox scales are made with plastic rivets that go thru the liner holes and are heat riveted, that is the plastic rivet end is melted and flattened against the inside of the liner to hold it in place. 300
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So the current black delrin saw cut 301 doesn't have it? :confused:
 
The current black 'Delrin' does not exist. The current black sawcut scale material is called Valox a close cousin to Delrin...I know it sounds like were splitting hairs, but since Buck calls it Valox , I call it Valox......

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300Bucks said:
The current black 'Delrin' does not exist. The current black sawcut scale material is called Valox a close cousin to Delrin...I know it sounds like were splitting hairs, but since Buck calls it Valox , I call it Valox......

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Ok so the current Buck 301 is black saw cut valor and does have the solid shield pillar right? Sorry it's confusing me.
 
The old style black sawcut, no matter the name of the plastic scale material, are all pillar shield construction currently. Only Dymondwood scales of all colors, are glued in shields. All pre 1985 black sawcut shields are glued. All black sawcut scaled 300 models with NO date code are glued in also.

It sounds confusing but isn't, some of the black scale 300s continued to be made by Camillus a long time after Buck took back production of the 301,303,309 and 305 in 1985. All the black scaled 300s with NO date code on the tang should be glued in shields.
Buck glued on shields until they started casting the one piece liner with bolsters and shield pillar as part of the liner. So if a black sawcut scaled 300 series post 1990 knife has a spring for every blade, has a SS spring pin, has a round ended shield where the hammer imprint has a long closed ended handle, then you are talking pillar shield.

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300Bucks said:
The old style black sawcut, no matter the material, are all pillar shield construction. Only Dymondwoods are glued in shields. All pre 1985 black sawcut shield are glued. All black sawcut black scaled 300 models with NO date code are glued in also.

It sounds confusing but isn't, some of the black scale 300s continued to be made by Camillus a long time after Buck took back production of the 301,303,309 and 305 in 1985. All the black scaled 300s with NO date code on the tang should be glued in shields.
Buck glued on shields until they started casting the one piece liner with bolsters and shield pillar a part of the liner. So if a black sawcut scaled 300 series knife has a spring for every blade, has a SS spring pin, has a round ended shield where the hammer imprint has a long closed ended handle, then you are talking pillar shield.
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Thanks I appreciate the explanation. I like the fact that my 301 has the pillar. No wonder it's a tank.
 
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