Buck 307?

Obviously official sources will soon be able to say for sure, but even though I have little knowledge of Buck history I want to throw my thoughts out before you think about bidding even $9.99 for this knife.

As far as I know, a Buck 307 has been a 3 blade stockman with a black handle and silver bolster for a long time. Searching for "Buck Wrangler," also shown on the box in the photo in addition to the 307 number, will briing up a picture of the same stockman on google, not a lockback. So at the very least they have the wrong box.

Looking at the knife itself, it looks like the work of Camillus or worse. In the first picture, note two things:
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1. Bad fitting of scales to bolsters. I have seen a few Bucks from decades ago, and they are better than this.

2. Look at the blade bevel just before the tang. See how the previous stage grind lines show through closer to the tang? Typical of crappy finishing.

The finer details of the shape of the lockback mechanism don't match with virtually every Buck lockback I have seen. They usually have the heel-looking part of the tang hang over the end of the lock bar when closed. You can't see directly in these pictures, but the length of the lock bar on this knife makes it look like this isn't the same, or if it was we might see the rounded back end of the tang stick out of the bolster when the blade is closed. It also looks like the end of the blade's spine is further forward of the pivot pin than most bucks.

Unless someone chimes in and says Buck made this knife for Winchester without markings and put it in a marked box, I would say nothing about it looks like a Buck.
 
...I've seen that knife as a Camillus, as a Craftsman, as a Frontier, as a Double Eagle by Frontier and by a bunch of other names as well. I seem to remember that someone said Buck sub-contracted out some 300 series work to Camillus in the early to mid-eighties. The Wrangler 307 was among the ones that Camillus made for Buck. THIS knife , however, is NOT a Wrangler 307 which was a 3 blade knife if I'm not mistaken...One of the truly knowledgeable folks who know the facts from being there, up close and personal, will pop in with more info on this I'm sure.
 
As the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, this photo is NOT a Buck Wrangler, 3 Blade Stockman...
 
1. The seller says he bought it in the late 70's, at that time Buck had already assigned the model number "307" to the Camillus contracted 4 1/4 inch closed Stockman, which his box clearly says it's for.

2. The Buck name is not on the knife, and I have yet to ever see when Buck made it's knives under contract for someone to sell under a different name.

3. I have also never seen Buck make that pattern of small lockback?
 
You have all confirmed what I suspected, but with the little expertise I have, was not willing to trust it.
 
Here is a pic of the 307 Wrangler.



Just got mine a few weeks ago from an online auction, also got a 314 trapper. The 307 is part of the EDC now. Really like that knife. :thumbup:
 
The 307 is a great "do it all" slipjoint, I don't have a Buck name one, but I have a Camillus name one that is the same knife.

They make a great user!
 
Can't believe this thing is up to 36.00 bucks, some Ebayers must not do any homework before bidding.
 
:eek: I think I have about 7 of that knife...All exactly the same and most with different makers names. I have Camillus, Frontier, Craftsman, Imperial just to name a few.They aren't bad knives for the most part but I have never seen them mistaken for a Buck knife with such "gusto"...LOL...and to be sure...they certainly do NOT stand up to a Buck. Does anyone remember that OLD movie about the 3 convicts that somehow escaped over the Christmas holiday? I think it was "We're No Angels". It starred Humphrey Bogart and some other well known (at the time) actors. There was a scene where the bad guy took a small box away from them and walked into a room to open it. The box contained a coral snake. Well the 3 convicts who wanted to do the "Christmasie" thing debated over who would go in and tell the guy that there was a snake in that there box. They debated long enough to have the guy open the box to find out the bad news...What was in the box is NOT what he expected...LMAO...:yawn: :cool: Who wants to tell??...My keyboard just got soaked with coffee that I coughed up...:cool: :cool:
 
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Item: Buck Winchester 307 Lockblade Pocket Knife 1970's MIB (6590173001)
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Are you aware that the only part of this offering that was made by Buck is the box? The knife was probably made by Imperial. It is deffinately not a Wrangler, which is a large 3 bladed stockman pattern knife.







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Item name:
Buck Winchester 307 Lockblade Pocket Knife 1970's MIB
Item number:
6590173001
End date:
25-Dec-05*21:33:46 EST
 
Will, I did the same thing a few months back on another knife said to be a Buck. I was soundly told by the seller to mind my own business and that if I didn't want to bid I shouldn't. He said he could call the knife anything he wanted. Since then I just sit back and see what they sell for.
 
I believe there is. You click on the number of bids made and it shows who did the bidding. It also shows each bidders "score" ...you click on that and you see what the feedback was. I believe it shows a box there where you can contact that bidder.
 
Wow...with all the Buck knives that buyer has bought so far I find it hard to believe that he doesn't know what he's buying here.....
 
DarrylS said:
Wow...with all the Buck knives that buyer has bought so far I find it hard to believe that he doesn't know what he's buying here.....
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Perhaps someone should recommend that he join the Buck Knives Forum. :eek:
 
The seller really oughta get the chance to amend his description...Maybe he/she really doesn't know what they are selling...
 
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