Buck Alaskan guide 110 request

RAZORBLADES

RAZORBLADES

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Since we are dreaming of knives we woukld like,I'd like to see Buck build the 110 Alaskan Guide with the added feature of a DLC coated drop point s30v blade.

I would like to see rosewood slabs and a stag option,also the backspring and spacer could be coated in the DLC coating too.The reason for all the coating is is works excellent as a rust barrier,making it a great choice for hunting especially if you don't have much time to properly care for your knife.

Lots of great knives have been added to the Alaskan Guide series,so whats wrong with adding one more?I bet most who own one of the existing 110 alaskan guide models will buy one of these.

PLEASE BUCK???
 
+1, I'd go for one RB!

I'd also like to see the AG 119 that was listed on Joe's LE/SO list in the BCCI news letter a few years ago;)
jb4570
 
Personally I hate coated blades, and even though they are completely different, I don't even like bead blasted blades. The statement by Razorblades where he says "For those who don't have much time to properly take care of your knife", sticks in my gut like a knife. Hunting, fishing, bike riding or whatever is us relying on our gear. If we don't take proper care of our gear, it will fail and someone, namely you or I will get hurt. As important as our sports are, they are nothing without the gear we use to do them. Just my Opinion, not taking care of your knife every time you use it is a &in.
 
When we are guiding our equipment is checked and re-checked,when we are skinning out bears for successfull hunters,you don't have time to stop and properly clean a knife like a 110 out the way it should be done,sorry but time is money .Moose hunting ,same thing,if we are in camp,we have limited time to spend on things like making sure our knives are completely dry before putting them away.Taking care of the feild dressing caping ,and processing the meat for the freezer come first,equipment gets cleaned and checked after those things are taken care of.The coatings aren't for looks in my opinion,its pure function.If i only bought knives on looks alone,i'd have a lot less knives.
 
RAZORBLADES said:
.The coatings aren't for looks in my opinion,its pure function.If i only bought knives on looks alone,i'd have a lot less knives.
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Well if you were assuming I was referring to the look of the knife, you would be wrong. Actually I like the look of the blade but coating get scratched, flake or just wear off. It takes 15 minutes to completely wash out dry and oil a knife. That won't break the bank will it???

It's all a matter of insuring the complete job gets done, even if you get a little less rest.
 
Id love to see a 110 or 112 with a DLC coated blade and backspring. The only thing I found that could wear off the DLC on my Spyderco Para 2 were diamond sharpening stones. I cant say Ive seen it flake off or chip like some of the other coatings out there.
 
Isn't the coating on a stainless steel blade?
Putting a stainless steel blade away wet shouldn't cause rust. Thus the reason I hate carbon blades, let me rephrase that I hate carbon blades.

Ain't no way in heck I'm gonna spend 15 min to wash and dry a knife, That much I don't have time for, even if I got time. Especially a fixed blade.
95% of the time all the cleaning my pocket knife gets is a wipe on the lower pants leg.

I ain't gotta worry about it, that's what I like about Bucks!


Too get a little further off topic, I wish all tools were made with stainless steel. I'd have two of ea.
Same reason I got a SS tomahawk, even just got a titanium hammer (that do more to elbow issues though but I hate rust on my hammer which is inevitable).
 
Most times we dont get too much spare time,keeping clients happy is the number one priority,our gear is number two on the list.We are right on the Atlantic ocean here,and just the air can rust steel,I take excellent care of my knives and guns,but they still get rust around here, its normal.I don't think i've seen any of the buck knives with the black widow coatings ever chip or wear off,its very durable and just what we need here.Hopefully buck makes them awhile longer.

OH,And if you think you'll be guiding hunters for 5 days and you'll be having free time to spare,its not gonna happen.
 
Its also nice to have a bit more protection if you're salt water fishing. They might be stainless, but a day covered in salt water has brought out rust spots on a couple of my Bucks.
 
StuntDouble said:
Its also nice to have a bit more protection if you're salt water fishing. They might be stainless, but a day covered in salt water has brought out rust spots on a couple of my Bucks.
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Ya saltwater can be a little different animal. Often times though the rust on SS from saltwater is not the SS but traces left from the tooling materials or other stray metal.

Yes some is due to the grade of SS.
 
Just because something is "Stainless" doesn't mean it won't rust. All metal will rust, Stainless or not.
 
The BassPro 110 has a CPM-154 blade with a very hard coating -- titanium/aluminum/nitride (or something). Very stain resistant. Excellent alternative to S30, and comparable performance in edge-holding, yet easier to sharpen.
 
Alberta Ed said:
The BassPro 110 has a CPM-154 blade with a very hard coating -- titanium/aluminum/nitride (or something). Very stain resistant. Excellent alternative to S30, and comparable performance in edge-holding, yet easier to sharpen.
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Are they still selling them? I couldn't find them on their website yesterday.
 
mbjannusch said:
Just because something is "Stainless" doesn't mean it won't rust. All metal will rust, Stainless or not.
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Actually ,you are wrong ,Spyderco sells a model called the H1 Atlantic Salt,that steel does not rust,i've used mine lobster fishing and even soaked the blade in pure salt water,and there is no rust,not even a tiny spot anywhere.I have no idea what type of steel it is,but its something else.
 
RAZORBLADES said:
Actually ,you are wrong ,
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Well until you figure it out, please refer to my last comment, SS isn't always stainless. Its just a matter of time till it does, but it will.


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Uneducated comments ,please I'm very well educated,And at the monent there are no hunting seasons open,it seems anytime someone suggests you might be wrong about something ,you need to get all defensive and smart mouthy,well chill out big boy,you don't ruffle my feathers in the least bit.I've been guiding hunters here since i was 19 years old,i'm 40 now so i've done my share of feild dressing/skinning/caping and meat processing.I learned a few things about knives over the years,

Since spyderco tested their H1 series to the extremes with zero rust or pitting,not to mention the extreme conditons i've put my own knife through with zero rust,maybe it is you who should do a little research before opening up your pie hole to tell us you are right yet again.I didn't say stainless steel was always stainless,i'm pretty sure i've seen a few times now where you've enlightened us with your knowledge and superior wisdom only to be corrected later by someone who ACTUALLY KNOWS.

Don't bother replying to any of my posts ,i don't need your input on anything ,The thread was directed to anyone at Buck Knives,if i want your input i'll make another thread asking for it.

You said"all metals will rust"ok,sooo here are just a few metals that don't rust

titanium
aluminum
copper
lead
zinc
tin

NOPE,Never saw any of those with rust on them.LOL.
 
RAZORBLADES is right about the H1. If you find rust on an H1 blade, it's most likely metal particles left behind by the machines used to mill it. It's my understanding that Nitrogen acts as the bonding agent in the steel, rather than carbon. Since Nitrogen does not react with Chlorine, no rust. I'm surprised more companies don't use it, as I don't think Spyderco has exclusive rights to the material.

I've had a couple Buck's with rust rust on them, not just caused by the microscopic particles left behind by the grinding machines. I also have two friends at work that use Spydercos, and they've managed to stain the blades. I don't know how they did it, but both knives have ATS-55 blades, and they look like they have a patina. I seem to remember a Cold Steel Voyager that actually ended up with a couple of pits in the spine due to rust as well. The one Spyderco H1 I had couldn't be made to rust, and I left it covered in all manners of chemicals. Not even the smallest spot of rust showed up. It's currently serving with a friend on a boat off the west coast, and still performing well from what I hear.

Now that I think about it, maybe we should try talking Buck into making a run of knives in H1, rather than using DLC. Then mbjannusch wouldn't have to worry about his coating getting scratched.;)
 
RB, your right, all Metal will not rust. We were discussing knife blades and Stainless steel, and I use the two as meaning the same, but to be specific, All metal will corrode/oxidize, only metals with carbon will rust. H1 is a carbon free metal.


It is though a discussion forum, if you don't want to discuss, don't post a discussion thread.
 
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After reading the original post again, it occurs to me that Buck isn't the one you should be asking, you should be asking Cabela's. They are the one's who hold the purse strings and I'm sure Buck will build whatever they request.

If they aren't willing to buy for resale, Buck's not going to produce them. I'd be willing to bet next month's SS that it was Cabela's who dropped the stag and desert ironwood models, not Buck. I'm sure that if Cabela's still wanted to carry them, Buck would be more than happy to produce them and any other variation that they request.
 
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StuntDouble said:
I'm surprised more companies don't use it, as I don't think Spyderco has exclusive rights to the material.
Then mbjannusch wouldn't have to worry about his coating getting scratched.;)
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H1 can't be too great, there all being blown out on the auction site, almost given away.

No need to worry;)
 
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