Buck Bulletproof glass 112 problems..

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I have some problems with my Buck 112 FG bulletproof glass.
As you can 4 months after purchasing corossion started to show up.
It's in a place I can't reach unless the knife comes apart. I e-mailed the maker about 6 days ago but no reply so far.
(He seems to be very busy and tough to get a hold of)
Is this something I can fix myself? Paid $175 for the knife, so this is a bit of a bummer..

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Your best bet is to let Leroy fix it. That spring holder should be stainless steel of some sort, and it's a little bit surprising to see any rust forming on it. Taking it apart may very well cause cracks to form in the LEXAN.
 
Sitflyer is correct and I can almost guarantee that the maker will correct the problem, but you really need to call rather than email as his email response is typically rather slow.
 
Leroy's reply in the e-mail, I live in Holland, so calling is too expensive, hence my e-mail:

"Stainless steel cant rust. Something has gotten in there. When the knife left my shop it was in excellent shape. Not sure what you got in there. Did you use it around any oil or grease or some kind of liquid? Not sure what to tell you, maybe try some compressed air. these knives are more for showing off the mechanism inside , if it is used regularly dust , dirt will get inside. on a normal knife you wouldn't see it. Unfortunately I cant take it apart because it would melt. Try the air and let me know what happens."


Unfortunately none of you guys predictions "I guarantee the maker will fix it" is true. Leroy suggest I "got something in there" but that did not happen. The knife has been sitting in it's sheath for about 5 months unused! To me it appears the problem came from the inside as there is no brown residue on the edges, only in areas I cannot reach! Could it have been a problem with the donor knife used in the first place?
I understand it's a nasty problem I also cannot put my finger on. Also get the point that it's hard/expensive to fix as it seems it means he will need to destroy the Lexan and pretty much make a new one it seems. No easy "Spa" treatment on this one unfortunately :-(

Unfortunately the compressed air did not do the trick.
By the way, it is new to me you cannot use knife oil on this knife. I have not used it, but if it damages the Lexan, it would be helpfull to know for all other owners of these knives!!

I have e-mailed Leroy with the compressed air result. See what happens next..
 
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Sorry to hear about the lack of support that you received. Oil won't hurt LEXAN. Here is my bulletproof 112, I have used gun oil on it and then blew it out with compressed air. There are small scratches in the LEXAN from handling and using this one. I think Leroy meant that grinding the heads off the pins will heat them up and that would melt the material.

P.S. After re reading your post Leroy did say to let him know how you made out.
 
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As Sitflyer stated, the maker did not say that he would not correct the problem; he is only offering you something to try to fix the problem without returning the knife to him, especially since you live in Holland. Rat Finkenstein is also correct in that stainless steel can definitely rust. In fact, once rust on stainless has started, it can proceed more rapidly than with carbon steel. So, the question at this point is whether the "spot" is indeed rust or whether something has gotten in there. If possible, I would suggest that you look at the spot under some high magnification and that may allow you to make a better determination as to whether the area is indeed rust as I would think that you would also see some pitting of the metal if that is the case. I would still recommend that you actually return the knife to the maker for his assessment of the problem. Best of luck in getting the situation resolved.
 
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Let me also suggest that might want to try to run some sort of stiff, thin object, like a single edge razor blade in between the spring holder and the lexan handle in the area in question and see what results you might get from that.
 
Erik,
I think the best thing I can recommend at this point is to send me the knife if you would like me to try and fix it. I will let you what can and cannot be done but I will need the knife in my shop to determine that.
Leroy

Leroy Remer
13038 Shenandoah Drive
Lakeside, CA 92040-3334
 
I am sure LEROY will take care of the issue ..
I have several knives of his and never had a issue with any ..

NOW that said
I have had stainless rust on me , heck even had a buck blade rust
but
one odd thing I did have happen was in a blade made of 425M
it was mirror polished and one day I noticed a .. spot
it was a rust like spot in the polished blade that was due to contaminates in the steel
I under stand that this was one reason buck stopped using it ..
I do believe that the spacers and back springs were also made of the blade material
so it comes to my mind - is the donor knife made of 425M ?
and if so - could this be that issue?
 
Sorry, for the late reply, but for some reason I did not get any e-mails mentioning the replies to my post! (Except for Leroy's)
Blowing with an airgun did not work.
I have send it to Leroy 2 days ago as suggested and am hoping for the best..
It's a weird problem, I know, but I am not a fussy person and a real Buck fan. (own about 100 Buck knives)
Understand Leroy's stance too as it left his shop in fine condition and looked OK when it arrived..

Like Dave says I also have a unused 112 knife with rust on it's spine. It's the limited green wood and Custom blade. Not sure if it is 425M steel, but it looks as if the top stainless steel peeled off and the lower layer underneath started to corode! Still have to send it in to Buck for warranty, but have not found the time yet. (There is no rush since their guarantee is LIFETIME)
I can post Macro pics if interested..
 
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If you were closer to the southern states, I would say it was Bar-B-Que sauce........Good luck on this tricky situation.

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