Buck Knives Patch

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Need a little help from the experts. Is this a "Buck issued" patch? Any idea on its age? Also, is the knife a 102 or 105? I think it's a 105, but want to confirm.

Thanks! :)

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This is the kind of question that needs asked on a slow forum day. What knife is it? I'd say it is just a stylized generic. But OK, I'll play. If it was a 102 the blade length would be close to the handle length. The blade is clearly longer than the handle but too narrow to be a 119. That leaves us with the 105/121 as viable choices. The double spacer in the guard is throwing me though..... :rolleyes:
 
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The "famous for holding an edge" looks like a 6 year old did it. The rest if it looks machine made. Somehow it doesn't look, factory. But just a guess.
 
I would say a knock-off of some kind. But, would still go well in a display. If it is copying all of the Buck designs of the knife, bolt and hammer over the past, it will be a 105. I have never seen it but that doesn't mean much anymore....300
 
I have seen a lot of Buck patches but never one that poorly done. It should be a 105 on the patch, but I am not sure what that one is.
 
Years ago I was on the district committee for the local BSA council. When ordering District Camporee patches and other event patches sometimes you get a "bad patch" in the bunch, like the machine ran out of a certain color thread while being mass produced - the Buck slogan on that patch looks that way to me. OH
 
The reason I asked is because this patch is very common...

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This patch is quite rare...
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And the patch in question is the first that I've ever seen with "Famous For Holding An Edge", but I agree, the quality isn't the greatest.

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Most likely somebody who worked at a uniform company. They always had the ability to customize patches. It will display nice.
 
DeSotoSky said:
The double spacer in the guard is throwing me though..... :rolleyes:
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I examined the logo on the shield of my 1970s 301 with a magnifying glass and the patch actually follows the "bolt and hammer" logo closely. The two lines that you see on the guard are actually the borders of the single spacer. Those two lines are on the shield knife as well.

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This tells me that the patch was likely made before the logo was changed to a knife with less detail like below.

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Was the shield, in the top photo, only used on Schrade and Camillus made knives?
 
Ah, the shield question.... Generally, the top shield is considered pre-Buck factory made. The round end shield Buck factory made. Remember, when Buck first came out with factory made folding knives they said BUCK on the shield for four or five years.( Camillus contract models carried on with long shields.) Then the ink wore off with handling and they went back to the knife, bolt and hammer. Generally, the ends of the shield and the hammer handles are the items of comment of origin. Shields on the S and C made knives were contract made and especially Camillus made other knives with the same sized 'glue' in shield that said various things. Buck even got them to stamp special order shields with a companies logo. Order enough and you could get your name on 3 or 4 hundred 301's. Shields occasionally popped off till the pillar method of shield making started in the 1990's, 300
 
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Generally, the ends of the shield and the hammer handles are the items of comment of origin.
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I also noticed that the knife on the Camillus shield is much more detailed and refined.

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Shields occasionally popped off till the pillar method of shield making started in the 1990's,
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Have you ever had a shield pop off on one of your using knives?
 
Are there a lot of BUCK Patches out there? I would love to know more about them and see them!

Old Hunter's post reminded me of the patches used by the Boy Scouts. I remember walking a National Jamboree as a Scout, trading Council Shoulder Patches with Scouts from all over the Country. Some were absolutely gorgeous! The number of colors and thread coverage over the patch was important (to me). I still have them! I will have to dig them out.
 
I had a 303 lose it's shield in my pocket and have had a 301 lose its shield in the box. I have seen a couple of photos here with lost shields and have seen bay photos of Model 300s with lost shields. To my memory all were Camillus made. Looking in the lost shield spot you see glue effect on the Delrin. I epoxied the 303 shield and I believe I super glued the 301. I have advised folks who have a historic knife to buy one off the bay that is sharpened down and carefully remove the shield and re-glue it on the family knife. Some guys that do custom scales on 300s might be able to supply one also. You never know Joe may have some extras in the Custom shop.
The glue on shields were SOP at Camillus and I think that whatever glue they used held on many a shield. The BUCK shields, when carefully looked at, lots of time show a glue effect along the edge. Seems like top edge most commonly. Buck glued just a few years before they started using liner with pillar to stamp the shield. Some effect can be seen with Buck made 300s as scales are pushed on 'hot' over the pillar. You can polish off any melted edge on the saw-cuts at the bolsters but not from shield area.
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