Buck Mayo 172 Vs Bradley Alias I comparison and pic request

ohmyheckinslc

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The search function is acting up, and using google to search BFC hasn't turned up much. I'd like to see some comparison pics between the bradley and the buck mayo tnt if anybody has both, and the time.
Also, I'd like to know what the blade thickness on the tnt is, because I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Thanks in advance! :)
 
I've had both, I no longer have either. IMO the 172 is better executed and better designed then the Bradley.

My hand does not like the little horns on the 172, whack off and you have a pretty darned good knife. However the 172 does not have bronze washers, a significant issue for me.
 
The blade thickness on the 172 is .125"

I've not had the bradley, but I pretty much EDC'd a 172 for 2-3 years. I still EDC it at times, but I've since gotten an RJ Martin Devastator so that tends to get more carry time now.

As to the bronze washers, the 172 uses Nylatron from what I remember. Tom Mayo uses that material in his own customs- not bronze. So, if it is good enough for Tom's customs, it is good enough for my 172. While its true that some don't like the horns on the 172, they're not "that" intrusive. The handle is comfortable, and grippy enough without any added bulk due to the holes in the scales. It was/is a VERY light knife that will do heavy work and is just there when you need it.

Oh, and before someone brings it up, I've had 4 sebenzas. I still have my 172 and wouldn't have another sebenza if you paid me.
 
Oh, and before someone brings it up, I've had 4 sebenzas. I still have my 172 and wouldn't have another sebenza if you paid me.

Sounds to me like you tried really hard to like the Sebbie. If you don't mind me asking, what was it about your Sebbies that didn't please you, and what is it that you like better about the Buck Mayo?

Thanks,
3G
 
SpyderJon,

If you dislike the Sebenza so much, why did you buy so many of them? That's kind of like the old car ad in reverse. The guy says he's had 12 of a certain car in his life. Then he says, "They must be good or why would I have bought so many of them". In your case it's, "I should know how bad they are, I've owned a bunch of them". ;)
 
The blade thickness on the 172 is .125"

REALLY? That's good, I did some looking, and could only find a couple of german knife sites which put it at 2.5mm (closer to .9 inches). But that's the same stock thickness as the Spyderco Endura, and the Emerson knives... Sounds good. Thanks for the info!
 
Folders, my journey with the sebenza was like this:

When I first started in this hobby, I just wanted the "best" pocketknife that was out there. I know now that "best" is subjective, but back then I was trying to go by reviews I read because there weren't a lot of knife stores around me. Anyway, I traded for a decorated model. I didn't like it when it got here as it was far too "gentlemanly" for me. SO, I traded it for a small plain regular model. I didn't like the lockbar access to it, so I traded THAT one for a small plain Classic. While I liked the access better (read MUCH better), it still just didn't do anything for me. I got offered a small Obie model 2 for my plain classic sebenza and took it. Now THAT knife DID answer my needs perfectly and was just what I was looking for.

Anyhoo, I thought I was done with the sebenza, but a lot of people (many of whom whose opinion I value) kept talking about their quality so I figured since I had all my sebenzas when I FIRST started in the knife hobby, that perhaps my tastes and eye for quality would have matured. SO, when another decorated regular sebenza came up for a fairly good price I went for it. Well, I got it- NOPE. Still doesn't do it for me. I didn't even see any great improvements over my 172. Yeah, its made well. Its a good knife. Its just not THAT much better than my 172- not for the money they get for them.

3G, I'll just say that the sebenza didn't trip my trigger at all. Among my issues with the sebenza are: The handle is too small, the access to the lockbar isn't good enough, the thumbstud isn't as good as a blade hole for my purposes- and is too small IMHO, the grind is too thick, the pocketclip needs work (it fell out of my pocket on the first day because the tension just wasn't there), the handles show marks WAY too easy, the CCGs aren't THAT distinctive- no matter what kind you get,....

The good things about the sebenza are: its well made, it arguably popularized the framelock, the bushing is a good idea to regulate tension, it can be taken apart for cleaning, the warranty is great- as well as the refurb service, you can usually get most of your money back out of them, or trade them for something good (I got my first Elishewitz when I traded my last sebenza).

They're nice, just not the leader they once were.

Things I prefer about the 172 vs. the sebenza: style is better IMHO, grip is longer, grip is better due to the holes, access to the lockbar- while almost the same area as the sebenza- is easier to disengage, blade hole means it can be opened easily with either hand, the deep hollow grind is better for the kind of slicing cuts I do (besides, I EDC more than one knife, and if I need a "tougher" knife I have a Strider GB with a thick grind on it), the finish on the ti resists marks better than the sebenza- although the clip marks up like crazy, and ironically is MUCH too tight on my example.

That's about all I can say. I gave the sebenza quite a chance, even figuring that I MUST have missed something in my early collecting and it must be MY fault as to why the sebenza wasn't the perfect EDC. Nope, just wasn't for me.

Hope that helps!
 
SpyderJon,
Thank you for taking the time to explain, and in so much detail. I appreciate it. I, too, have arrived at pretty much the same conclusion during my quest for "the perfect folder."
A round hole on the mayo would be soo much pettier
GB,
It could happen. See if Sal is ready for a Spyderco/Mayo collaboration, or if Mayo will license or has licensed the Spyder-hole from Spyderco.;)

Regards,
3G
 
3G, not a problem. I'm just glad I could give a somewhat acceptable answer to your question.

GB, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the round hole thing. I'd say if Tom ever made a TNT with a round hole then that would be one thing, but the longer hole is more true to the original design- besides flowing better with the lines of the knife.

No, a REALLY nice folder with a round hole would be a production Spyderco version of Jens Anso's Rebel folder (preferably in a framelock).
 
If you decide on a 172, don't pay for a new one, get one used for $120 or so.

I think many of the things SpyderJon pointed out about the sebenza, I would say the exact same things about the 172! To each his own.
 
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