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I am sorry to hear about your experience with the 722 Spitfire. I hope that knife makes it back to me so I can take a closer look at it. If you haven't already ordered your replacement please send me an email with your shipping address to get a pre-paid label .
 
I think sometimes certain online retailers resell things that have been returned. And who knows what and why the return was made, as some folks send back stuff that they messed up.

Not always, but I've gotten items that I know no manufacturer would have sent out to be sold to a consumer.
Amazon especially!

I'm rather particular the retailers I purchase from.
Only once have I ever gotten a knife directly from Buck that had an issue. And they replaced it within 12 days.
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GPyro said:
I think sometimes certain online retailers resell things that have been returned. And who knows what and why the return was made, as some folks send back stuff that they messed up.

Not always, but I've gotten items that I know no manufacturer would have sent out to be sold to a consumer.
Amazon especially!

I'm rather particular the retailers I purchase from.
Only once have I ever gotten a knife directly from Buck that had an issue. And they replaced it within 12 days.
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I have received several knives directly from Buck with many issues.

The one from the custom shop was a 722 and particularly memorable. 3 times it went back! The bad thing was that it was a gift to my wife for 35 years of marriage. It is still not what I ordered. I finally gave up. I ordered two matching 722’s. Mine was not right, but I was able to fix it myself.
 
Two of the times I visited the big knife store near Pigeon Forge TN last year, I bought a Buck knife. First a 110 Pro and then a Squire.

Both times I had to politely and apologeticly ask the store employee to open up box after box so that I could feel the knife for blade play. It took six boxes to find a 110 Pro where the blade didn't wiggle, and there wasn't a solidly locking Squire in the store so I caved and just bought what I deemed to be the least worst.

I've had the same experience shopping for folders from Case as well as Bear & Son. I just accept that this is the state of quality with these traditional style knives made at this price point and volume in the USA.

I don't buy many of them, and I only buy them when I can check the knife over before getting out my wallet.
 
I should keep my mouth shut, because I don't want to jinx myself. The only problem I've had with Buck knives has been wonky edge grind sometimes. That's not a real big deal, because I rarely buy a knife where the edge suits me; and it's not just Bucks.
 
I've never had a problem with any buck folder from a functional standpoint but the slipjoint I have has gapping on back springs that's pretty bad but there budget knives and are users so doesnt bother me. Overall the modern folders have no appeal to me but I do love my 112 and 110.
 
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Two of the times I visited the big knife store near Pigeon Forge TN last year, I bought a Buck knife. First a 110 Pro and then a Squire.

Both times I had to politely and apologeticly ask the store employee to open up box after box so that I could feel the knife for blade play. It took six boxes to find a 110 Pro where the blade didn't wiggle, and there wasn't a solidly locking Squire in the store so I caved and just bought what I deemed to be the least worst.

I've had the same experience shopping for folders from Case as well as Bear & Son. I just accept that this is the state of quality with these traditional style knives made at this price point and volume in the USA.

I don't buy many of them, and I only buy them when I can check the knife over before getting out my wallet.
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May I respectively ask why you knowingly bought an item that was flawed? This is a Buck forum and most on here are very biased but there are many knives out there that are just as good (or better) so perhaps that would have been a better choice?
 
A knife with pinned construction that opens and closes nicely will have a little bit of blade play.
Otherwise the thing would be so tight it wouldn't open or close easily.



Tight tolerances are over rated.
Anybody that's had an old engine or worked on an old press can attest to that.
Well built with those tolerances in mind will provide more years of trouble free use than tight tolerance over- engineered things that everyone expects today.

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GPyro said:
A knife with pinned construction that opens and closes nicely will have a little bit of blade play.
Otherwise the thing would be so tight it wouldn't open or close easily.



Tight tolerances are over rated.
Anybody that's had an old engine or worked on an old press can attest to that.
Well built with those tolerances in mind will provide more years of trouble free use than tight tolerance over- engineered things that everyone expects today.

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Perhaps tight tolerances are "overrated" when they don't fit into a preconceived mindset?
 
troutbum243 said:
May I respectively ask why you knowingly bought an item that was flawed?
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Sure. I bought a lot of knives last year of all types, trying to experience as many different styles as I could and see what stuck with me. The normal 501 turned out not to be for me, but I later bought the 501 Larin with the clip point and pocket sheath and I like that one much much more.


GPyro said:
A knife with pinned construction that opens and closes nicely will have a little bit of blade play.
Otherwise the thing would be so tight it wouldn't open or close easily.

Tight tolerances are over rated.
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I know very little about knife construction, and I can accept what you are saying about slipjoints or friction folders, but for lockbacks I want it to feel solid.
 
Interesting.

This "quality control" that is being discussed does not exist.

That makes this a philosophy discussion.

What is the definition of "real?"

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Dutch87 said:
Sure. I bought a lot of knives last year of all types, trying to experience as many different styles as I could and see what stuck with me. The normal 501 turned out not to be for me, but I later bought the 501 Larin with the clip point and pocket sheath and I like that one much much more.



I know very little about knife construction, and I can accept what you are saying about slipjoints or friction folders, but for lockbacks I want it to feel solid.
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I have a custom lockback similar to a 112. It has significant side to side play when closed, but solid when locked open. It doesn’t bother me and the loose blade when closed makes it possible to thumb open the knife, thus a one hand opener.
 
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