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Buck Quality, Old vs New
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Flatlander1963
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Welcome to the board. This is a great place for anyone interested in knives and this sub-forum is full of regulars very knowlegable about Bucks.
IMO, there is no quality difference. The dots and current knives are both very well built, high quality knives. That said there are some differences in steel type and radius of bolsters (and a couple difference to back spring, bushing, etc that aren't obvious to a user).
Anything specific you're interested in comparing?
IMO, there is no quality difference. The dots and current knives are both very well built, high quality knives. That said there are some differences in steel type and radius of bolsters (and a couple difference to back spring, bushing, etc that aren't obvious to a user).
Anything specific you're interested in comparing?
ohen cepel
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The 112's and 110's have evolved over the years. I don't think they are any real quality differences. However, some people have preferences towards the new or old features.
I like the non-radiused earlier bolsters, but that is just me.
I like the non-radiused earlier bolsters, but that is just me.
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i bought my first 110 way back in "67
and have owned one at all times ever since..
it is better today then yesteryear!
the only thing is due to EPA rules
they dont use a flushing liquid that gets
all the compound out from in the blade area..
some feel this is a quality issue ..
it is not .. it is jest the way things are today..
ps
in 67 i paid 12$ for mine and i made 1.50 hr
today you can get one from wally for less then
30$ and when i retired i made 19$ an hr
so two hrs work vs 8 can it get any better then that?
and have owned one at all times ever since..
it is better today then yesteryear!
the only thing is due to EPA rules
they dont use a flushing liquid that gets
all the compound out from in the blade area..
some feel this is a quality issue ..
it is not .. it is jest the way things are today..
ps
in 67 i paid 12$ for mine and i made 1.50 hr
today you can get one from wally for less then
30$ and when i retired i made 19$ an hr
so two hrs work vs 8 can it get any better then that?
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I've recently revived my interest in 110's. I bought one back in the late 70's and wanted one just like I had back then. I found 2 on the auction site for a really good price. They were both 2 dots with the 440c blade steel. I also picked up 2 more in a trade the same week. One of them is the newer Bass Pro shops model with the 154cm blade, and the other is an older late 60's inverted stamp model. I would have to say the newer styled handles are possibly more ergonomic and feel better to my hands than the older squared edge handles. I guess if I was going to be using one for an extended time, that would be an improvement over the older handle style.
Other than that, I like the older models because they have the 440 blade steel and they remind me of my first one! I haven't owned a late model with the 420 blade steel, so I can't really comment on the cutting performance between the later and earlier models. I'd love to hear from some of the more knowledgable Buck collectors here and see a comparison of cutting performance between the new 420 and the old 440 blades. That would be interesting! Of course the variables of easier to sharpen vs. harder to sharpen, and the edge geometry would be brought into the argument, and It would probably come down to whatever works best for the individual user!
As for quality of new vs. old, I think they are still built as well as they ever were, and the warranty and customer service is something that keeps knife users coming back for more! It's probably the most knife for your Buck that you can find.
Other than that, I like the older models because they have the 440 blade steel and they remind me of my first one! I haven't owned a late model with the 420 blade steel, so I can't really comment on the cutting performance between the later and earlier models. I'd love to hear from some of the more knowledgable Buck collectors here and see a comparison of cutting performance between the new 420 and the old 440 blades. That would be interesting! Of course the variables of easier to sharpen vs. harder to sharpen, and the edge geometry would be brought into the argument, and It would probably come down to whatever works best for the individual user!
As for quality of new vs. old, I think they are still built as well as they ever were, and the warranty and customer service is something that keeps knife users coming back for more! It's probably the most knife for your Buck that you can find.
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Well, minority or not.I may take this in a different angle. A knife like a mfg. tool, they evolve or respond to environmental factors.Getting parts quicker allows more to be made quicker and end up in the hands of the user.ie. increases sales. If your a production company you have to respond to that factor.So,one must be sensitive and fluid to change. The proof is in the pudding and when you sell one million thats proof of a good product.
As far as the frame and wood,pivot and lock they are better. The blade steel, 440C had to give way to faster production inorder to move ahead.Only the speciality steels can match 440C, its in a class w/ them.However, one may buy a 2 or 3 dot 110 today for less than 50$.Try buying a modern large folder of good quality w/ solid ebony and 440C blade for that today. Buck moved ahead w/ knowledge of its history and tweaking areas to make it better. You don't move ahead to look back. You move ahead to look ahead.
Trying comparing today baseball to that of 1920's Yankees. Its a total different game resulting in different manovers and talent. Its like comparing apples to oranges.You enjoy the knives of that era and those of this era.This is true of any company thats been around a long time. Thats why many times I say "enjoy your Buck knife".DM
As far as the frame and wood,pivot and lock they are better. The blade steel, 440C had to give way to faster production inorder to move ahead.Only the speciality steels can match 440C, its in a class w/ them.However, one may buy a 2 or 3 dot 110 today for less than 50$.Try buying a modern large folder of good quality w/ solid ebony and 440C blade for that today. Buck moved ahead w/ knowledge of its history and tweaking areas to make it better. You don't move ahead to look back. You move ahead to look ahead.
Trying comparing today baseball to that of 1920's Yankees. Its a total different game resulting in different manovers and talent. Its like comparing apples to oranges.You enjoy the knives of that era and those of this era.This is true of any company thats been around a long time. Thats why many times I say "enjoy your Buck knife".DM
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I have allot of early 60's Bucks and allot of the newer ones and I honestly can't see any difference in quality, fixed blade and folders. I think that they just become more stylish and the sheaths are made better. Buck quality has been and always will be # 1 in my book..........:thumbup: