Buck`s 420 hc and 154 cm

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sch3ric

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Hello everyone,

Im really impressed with my user blade the Buck Marksman. But a folding knife can`t logically do everything. Thats why I want a fixed blade folding knife combo. I think it will fit my needs. I did a lot of research and came to the point that my next knife is probably going to be the Buck csar-t fixed.
(my first fixed blade).
Now because of the steel. Bucks 154cm is awesome (in my exp.). But how is Bucks 420hc will it be better for batoning and just general survival use?

Note:
(I know that these steels are like comparing apples to oranges, but I dont care for the moment, I know as well that you need to go in compromizes with steel.)
(I can sharpen a 154cm blade free handed to hair poppin sharp) (got a soft spot for paul bos heat treated knives, hes tha boss :cool:)
(the best tool is between your ears) (I know that there are multiple threads about 420hc but I still cant decide.)

The thing is that my knife dealer offers the csar-t fixed in the old version 420hc and new 154cm, now which one should I take?
And do you think that the csar-t fixed is a decent survival knife? (its SOMEWHAT similar to an esee 4)

(What im looking for in a fixed blade: Not too big, blade around 5 inches, decent weight for chopping, removeable handle scales, good design and ergos, build like a tank.)

I would ridicilously appreciate your help.
Thank you for reading. :thumbup:
 
No one does 420 like Buck(Bos), even still I'd go with 154cm as it will hold an edge a good bit longer and you are able to sharpen it well. The czar fixed is a good knife and will serve you well. Good luck
 
Disclaimer: I've never used 154cm but have used VG-10 which I've heard to be roughly equivalent.

On paper 420hc should be a bit tougher since it's a softer steel. Although honestly I think 154cm can take anything reasonable you throw at it including batoning, with the added bonus of keeping an edge longer.

I'd go with 154cm.
 
Buck has said that because they run their 420HC so hard, it is not all that tough. I would not recommend either Buck 420HC or 154CM for batonning. However, I would recommend them for "general survival use".

Up until a few years ago "general survival use" did not include batonning.
If you want something for batonning, buy a Becker.
 
Thanks to everyone for replying, you guys are awesome!
Does anyone have any other thoughts about it? And is 4 1/2 inches enough to most outdoor hard use tasks?
(For smaller works i got the folder)
 
I've never needed anything bigger than my old Schrade XT2B (4.25" blade I think) for outdoor work, even light batoning. I guess if I was working with thicker, I'd of course want a longer blade, but so far that hasn't been a concern.
 
4.5 inches should suffice. That's what the blade length of Nessmuk's fixed blade was.
 
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