Buck/Strider folder???

Generic steel, poor lock. I will not recomment it. Design is pretty good, and first models with ATS-34 (Bos HT) was OK. I was able to get one with PE and then switch handle to G10.

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However lock, unfortunately, is so thin so I can fold the knife overpowering lock with my hand without too much pressure.

I guess Strider realize that Buck make his models with same quality and 4 times cheaper and so Buck is not making this models in top quality any more.

Thanks, Vassili.

P.S. However I do not really know hoe thick liner on the model you mentioned - they may very well fix it, I see it has PE, may be they made good lock if steel is 420HC...
 
boomhower said:
Does any one out there have any expierence/opinions on this knife???

http://www.buckknives.com/catalog/detail/473/233

i can get on for about 50$ but i wanted some input first, im looking for a beefy folder with an easy price...
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Check Kershaw Junck Yard Dog II - it is quite beefy, I think, and very friendly in terms of price.

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Also check CRKT M1.

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Manix is also beefy but it not so easy priced.

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Thanks, Vassili.
 
"Me too."

I think the design looks neat, but the liners are kind of thin. The current models are supposed to have slightly thicker liners than previous models, but they still look weak to me.

Reading the Buck forum frequently, it doesn't seem uncommon to get one with a lock that isn't quite right and tends to pop out easier than people expect. I like a lot of Buck knives, but making liner locks is probably their weakest skill.

The steel is 420hc, a useable but VERY basic steel. Buck hardens it just right to get the most out of it.

My overall opinion is the knife looks like a really heavy duty professional piece of equipment, but in reality is just a common knife made larger and priced slightly higher.
 
i would personally stay away from that buck that you posted..... like others have said the steel is unimpressive and the liners for the liner-lock are thinner then i am comfortble with. The older versions with ats-34 steel were decent but still the liners were thin and at 100 dollars or so i think overprices.

in the 50-60 dollar range you should be able to get a spydrco endura or a Benchmade griptilian. I dont know if these are "beefy" enough for you though....., some kershahs such as the JYD or the Cyclone have a beefier feel but ive been underwhelmed by the sandvik steel (but its still better then the 420 on that buck you posted)
 
delkhouri said:
but ive been underwhelmed by the sandvik steel (but its still better then the 420 on that buck you posted)
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On my opinion, Sandvic 13C26 is an excellent steel in same range as VG10, ATS-34... It is not ZDP189 or CPM S90V, but pretty close with really easy price tag. There are many reports of it excellent quality - you may search for it.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I'll comment as an owner of a Tarani model, with 420hc and FRN grips, and CRKT as pictured. I bought them back to back, the CRKT first.

Both are thick, so do appeal as a brawny knife. Both have saber grinds and don't "flow" through double corrugated cardboard as easily as a flat grind. The narrower point on the Buck worked better, as did the serrations; the finish on the CRKT is much more durable as a Ti coating than any other I've used.

Both grip well, the CRKT being more comfortable barehanded, the Buck using Strider's ergonomics much better when wearing gloves, which gives you a little more protection until you get used to the aggressive slotting on the back of the scales.

Lockup on the early Bucks was compromised by the thin liner. Most complaints seem to come from the low end 420hc bladed versions, few of the ATS34 knives are mentioned in this regard. CS Buck has responded that he is looking into it and believes it was focused on the early models; nonetheless, it's getting reviewed to make sure new production isn't affected. My Tarani, a warranty replacement, suffers from poor lockup, too. The CRKT does not, and none of my other CRKT's ever have, either.

My disappointment with the Tarani and some features of the CRKT led me to buy a Strider SnG. It's thinner, cuts better, locks up securely, and has never given me a moment's regret. Some say that the difference in price isn't justified, but the attention to functional use is very evident - no value engineered shortcuts in design or production - you truly do get what you pay for - extreme reliability.

Would I ever buy another Buck? Their traditional products have never really been my cup of tea, having tried a few, but I am looking at the 172 Mayo TNT. And if I found an ATS-34 version cheap I would only let limited cash flow prevent me from snatching it up, even if I don't need it.

As for the 420hc/FRN, not so much. The traditional 110 at Walmart is a much better buy, even if the same blade steel.
 
Im not trying to take over this thread, but...........

Vasili, In MY EXPERIENCE sandvik is easily outperformed by s30v and by vg10/ats34/154cm by a fair margin....... also it rusted within the first week before it really cut anything and it NEVER got wet...... so long story short i have been underwhelmed by it

Back to the post.... I agree with Tirod that not all bucks are junk. The mayo tnt and waimea (sp?) are good knives as well as many of their traditional lockbacks its just that this knife you had questions about concerns me with their thin liner no matter the steel used in the blade
 
it's a shame about the problems in the design of this knife. I'll be honest, I'm stylistically a big fan of Strider's basic design, but can't really afford an SMG or SMF on a college student budget. But if these are trading for $50 or so and have crap liner locks and 420C steel... I'm just better off with a VG-10 Delica or a BM Griptilian. It's a shame, these are very attractive knives.

Why aren't they a frame-lock design like Strider's folders?

edit: sorry for the massive bump, i was doing a search on Buck/Strider threads and this seemed the most relevant... My apologies.
 
No_b00st said:
it's a shame about the problems in the design of this knife. I'll be honest, I'm stylistically a big fan of Strider's basic design, but can't really afford an SMG or SMF on a college student budget. But if these are trading for $50 or so and have crap liner locks and 420C steel... I'm just better off with a VG-10 Delica or a BM Griptilian. It's a shame, these are very attractive knives.

Why aren't they a frame-lock design like Strider's folders?

edit: sorry for the massive bump, i was doing a search on Buck/Strider threads and this seemed the most relevant... My apologies.
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The Buck Striders aren't all that bad. The Buck was the gateway drug that led me to buying the Strider SnG. But even today I find I carry the Buck more often. Yes the liner is a little thin, but to be honest it seems strong enough. I own three of the Buck versions and none of them have QC issues. Also the Buck model I have is ATS34 steel and can be bought on Ebay for about $50.00. Just search "Buck Strider Tarani"

I think the quality of the blade and the overall ergos make it a winner. But you're correct, if Buck had chosen to make it a stainless framelock , it would have been a phenomenal knife.



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These are some of my favorite knives. Up to date materials and as functional as any other Production Tacticals. If you can find them, Buy them. They are just going to get harder and harder to find!!!
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the Buck/Strider and the real Strider look REMARKABLY similar...

is it possible to find the Tarani without a PS edge? Not real fond of that...

if i can find one of the Buck/Striders in ATS-34 with a PE, I'll jump on it

plus no cheesy tiger camo blade :-P (joking, Strider fans...)
 
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