Buck Values

[Scott Hartman]

What do you guys think about the prices alot of these Buck knives are bringing? I look in Blade's Guide to Knives & Their Values to get ballpark ideas. Are the 2004 values grossly under estimated at the present? We've all watched prices on older Bucks soar the past couple of years; good economy or just more Buck collectors? Should the evilbay determine values?

Should I sell my house and buy more Buck Knives (And how do I tell my wife!)

 

[wh4f]

I think the 2004 values are, well, 3 years old!
Prices have gone up a tad since then. Although I have seen quite a few knives (especially gold etched ones) that bring in less than what the guide calls for.
Evil E is very hit and miss. I am unsure if sometimes it is the description or the feedback or maybe just shipping locations but the prices of knives vary greatly.
Certain models also seem to sell better (read higher) than others at all times also!

The older knives are getting more expensive (and quick) probably due to the fact that there are more Buck collectors and there are less older knives...
(IMHO)

 

[DarrylS]

...LOL...It sounds humorous but I know just what ya mean Scott. I have been watching the ups and downs of the prices of Bucks for a little while now and there is just something about what I've been seeing that gives me the feeling of speculative inflation. Many of the well known buyers are buying up and hoarding certain Buck knives and at almost regular intervals they put up a few (that you can't find anymore because they have 'em) at prices well above what they paid for them. At first these knives sold quickly for these folks but lately they seem to run through the 6 or 7 day sale period without "takers"...This same thing happened to silver in the 70's, when you could get a 73 Corvette for $750 face value of silver coinage, and it came back to bite those that had "speculated"...I believe current values are somewhat artificial...My opinion only...

 

[wh4f]

there is just something about what I've been seeing that gives me the feeling of speculative inflation... At first these knives sold quickly for these folks but lately they seem to run through the 6 or 7 day sale period without "takers"...This same thing happened to silver in the 70's, when you could get a 73 Corvette for $750 face value of silver coinage, and it came back to bite those that had "speculated"...I believe current values are somewhat artificial...My opinion only...[/COLOR]

VERY good point! :thumbup:

 

[jb4570]

Hi Scott,

I have to agree with Jimbo & DocD. Don't go to sell your house to buy knives or you may go bust. The prices seem to go up today and then down almost as fast for a very specific knife...go figure. I also take note that if we talk about a specific knife here on this forum....one that is hard to find....Bam it shows up the next day on ebay. The mini Buckmaster comes to mind....I had never heard or even saw this knife and we were talking about it here and showing pictures...then two of them were on ebay!!!!!

I don't buy my Bucks with the thought of them going up in value...I buy them because I'm having fun with them and all of you other folks......with the fever...Buck fever and the only cure is to buy another one...LOL. I have paid way to much for some of the Bucks I wanted for my collection and sometimes I get one for a good price. The bottom line is have fun with this Scott.....unless you are going into the Buck retail sales business for profit you may find that speculating takes all the fun out of it and will become more frustrating than you want it to be. So.....buy what you like and enjoy the ride....if you want to make money....go to work.....if you want to gamble with your hard earned money.....go to a Casino or play the stock market .

jb4570

 

[110 Dave]

...LOL I have been watching the ups and downs of the prices of Bucks for a little while now and there is just something about what I've been seeing that gives me the feeling of speculative inflation. Many of the well known buyers are buying up and hoarding certain Buck knives and at almost regular intervals they put up a few ...At first these knives sold quickly...but lately they seem to run through the 6 or 7 day sale period without "takers"...This same thing happened to silver in the 70's, and it came back to bite those that had "speculated"...I believe current values are somewhat artificial...My opinion only...

you are not alone scott!!

Hi Scott,
I have to agree with Jimbo & DocD. ..up.. down ..specific knife...go figure.I also take note that if we talk about a specific knife here on this forum....one that is hard to find....Bam it shows up the next day on ebay. The mini Buckmaster comes to mind....I had never heard or even saw this knife and we were talking about it here and showing pictures...then two of them were on ebay!!!!!
...I buy them because I'm having fun with them and all of you other folks .LOL. I have paid way to much for some of the Bucks I wanted for .. sometimes I get one for a good price. The bottom line is have fun with this.. speculating takes all the fun out of it ... So buy what you like and enjoy the ride....if you want to make money....go to work.....if you want to gamble with your hard earned money.....go to a Casino or play the stock market .
jb4570

wow ... much i wanted to say also!!!
yes on eveil bay i have made notes :
0) if we talk HERE on any knife then that knife goes up in price..
1) some can sell the same knife as i and get much more on their name..
2) deals can still be had
3) but not if a simi profesional dealer finds it first..
4) prices on customs are going down!!! esp on gold etch!
5) i only buy if i enjoy it
6) only sell to get one i want more or collection direction change
7) referance 0 - i wont pay a scalpers price so i wont buy after we talk of a knife !!!!
thoes that buy as pure knife dealers and speculaters,,,
may they gain lice and lose money...
but i am not so agenst the top level collectors that want every thing pristeen and totaly correct and willing to pay for it... they wont sell later...
it is jest dealers... buying up every thing like a land devloper...

 

[topol]

I feel a need to reply to this thread.

I'm relatively new to BUCK FEVER but from watching the evil E it's apparent who the resellers are as you find that they are always bidding against you for interesting knives and always selling the same later.

The way to combat this is to never bid on the stuff they have for sale. A lot of people got burned in real estate trying to "flip" houses when there were no "flipees" and the same will happen in the BUCK market if you just don't bid.

 

[110 Dave]

I feel a need to reply to this thread.
..apparent who the resellers are ...always bidding against you for interesting knives and always selling the same later.

this is not true... i know a lot of true collectors {(( and many are friends}))bid agenst me many times, realy it is a case of who wants it more...

many times the person bidding on scearce things never sells!
some are reselers or simi pro's and yes many times they sell
this is to help pay for their hobby ,,, so i dont worry so much on them as
yes we know them and can or not buy as price runs...

i feel the high end bidder runs up price also..
they do this as they want the one that is 100% in every way and will pay dearly for it
they also want the one of 10 or 3 and again can and will buy it..
it is the dealer that sees this and then bids up things thinking he will make money later
also dealers sees some thing scearce go for a lot and bang they all put the one they have for sale
a red 124 jest went for 160 .. 4 weeks ago one went for 500..
every one wanted to cash in...
more showing up mean less for each...
nothing one can do any thing about...

 

[HonkerRusty]

I have noticed a sharp increase in the last 6 months for the knives I buy. I use several on-line sites. It's like somebody knows what I'm after and the price is then jacked up. If that's the case, too bad for them. Others will become buyers. I use Larry Oden's pricing as my guide, rather than Blade's publication.

 

[wh4f]

I use Larry Oden's pricing as my guide, rather than Blade's publication.

:thumbup:
EXCELLENT!! This is how it should be!
I use this method also. I wont pay more than Larry asks for a knife. (unless I miss it)

 

[wh4f]

I feel a need to reply to this thread.

I'm relatively new to BUCK FEVER but from watching the evil E it's apparent who the resellers are as you find that they are always bidding against you for interesting knives and always selling the same later.

The way to combat this is to never bid on the stuff they have for sale. A lot of people got burned in real estate trying to "flip" houses when there were no "flipees" and the same will happen in the BUCK market if you just don't bid.

Dave,
I think you missed the point here? Or maybe I did?

The same guy bidding them up and buying them is also turning around and selling the same items.
I have seen one "gentleman" doing this with Black 560's. Selling 3-4 of them and then turning around and bidding up all the others (or attempting to buy them cheap) and reselling the same item next week...

I agree with this post entirely! I wont buy!

 

[chickentrax]

...Are the 2004 values grossly under estimated ...good economy or just more Buck collectors?...

It's a recession economy; prices are inflated; dollar is worth less. So it takes more of them to buy the same thing. The Canadian dollar is pretty much par right now, pretty soon they'll be driving down here and buying everything in sight...

(Hallo Will!)

 

[A.P.F.]

...The Canadian dollar is pretty much par right now, pretty soon they'll be driving down here and buying everything in sight...

(Hallo Will!)

That may be true, Trax, but look on the bright side, you get to keep Oprah and Ellen.

 

[110 Dave]

Dave,
I think you missed the point here? Or maybe I did?

The same guy bidding them up and buying them is also turning around and selling the same items.
I have seen one "gentleman" doing this with Black 560's. Selling 3-4 of them and then turning around and bidding up all the others (or attempting to buy them cheap) and reselling the same item next week...

I agree with this post entirely! I wont buy!

"some are re-selling as simi pro's and yes many times they sell
this is to help pay for their hobby ,,, so i dont worry so much on them as
yes we know them and can or not buy as price runs..."

yes in the above i know of the ones buying and reselling a short time later...
what i am refering to is like most of us we dont buy to resell later... at least not over once every 8 weeks
once in a while one of us may buy a knife {as i did once} - bid a low price to watch it and won it... then after getting it {{i have a fishing knife now i did not want as soon as i opened the box}}}.. or some time later not realy wanting it any more it resell it and as we got it at a crasy low price it make a buck which went to other bucks.
addationaly i think we all have had times we picked up some thing that we had one of and the new one is lower number or shines brighter and we plan on selling the old one... i do this some times my self -
as to buying and selling to run price up i done and for thoes that do i wish for them events like the hunt brothers got!!!
that is shrilling (bid running ) and if ebay notices the patern they will suspen them...

 

[Pack Rat]

Well, I will admit that I have a whole drawer full of 110's and 112's that are pre year code and in many variations, that I have scrounged up on the cheap with the intention of cleaning them up to resell and make a few bucks on.

but what has happened to me, as I clean one up and make it all purty, I don't want to let it go. I figure at the rate I play with one, the kids or grandkids will someday make a few dollars selling them off on ebay.

The entertainment I have gotten out of them has been worth the price of collecting/accumulating them. But maybe some day, some of the duplicates will go,,,maybe, kinda, sorta,,,probably not....

 

[110 Dave]

hee hee hee such rough decisions!!! i have 6 right now i take out and put on the dest to wright the listing on but get to thinking some and jest dont get to it..
i have to srart thinking of them like fosterlings of old ..
mine for a little while then let them go on...

 

[bucksway]

I have neaver bought or sold a knife on Ebay, but Ill bet some do for pure excitment....Thrill of the hunt! and as far as crazy prices..Is the " BIGGER FOOL " thory, If you paid too much you MUST find a bigger fool.. In a way I feel sorry for them but in truth it distorts the true collector market...and thats a bad thing...The people who do this move on tho to something else after a few "bad" deals.Rarety, age, alone does not nesserly mean more value,higher price. I dont trust Ebay to set true values...But it sure is good for finding things