My main question is should I get the stuff then find a pack to fit it or buy a pack and then buy the stuff to put in it. I could see the first option making sense since I know what I want to carry it and that makes finding the correct pack a little easier since I know what I will be carrying but on the other hand I would already have the pack and I know what I would be working with. Tell me how you put together your BOB setup and what you have in it please I have been wanting to make a BOB for some time and I need to get a good list of items to get.
-
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
Bug Out Bag setup
- Thread starter bitter1
- Start date
powernoodle
Power Member
- Joined
- Jul 21, 2004
- Messages
- 11,973
Forgive the length, but here is a list of things from various bug out bag and/or survival threads here at BF that various individuals have listed. Some are more centered toward short term survival, whereas others are more comprehensive. Something for you to think about. Lots of redundancy. :thumbup:
Safety pins (2 lg, 2 sm)
Needles (4)
Small spool of Spiderwire fishing line
Small signal mirror
Small whistle
Small LED light (Inova's Microlight)
Sparklight striker
Tinder (4 of the Sparklite tinder bundles)
Fresnel lens
Mini Bic lighter
Small pencil and a couple of small notecards (waterproof ones)
Razor blade
Tin foil (about 1X1 foot square)
Utility wire (about 8 feet, not sure of the guage...Army trip wire)
Nylon cord (550 cord inner string) about 30 feet
Button compass (it sucks, but is just a back up to my EDC)
Small role of duct tape
MSR MIOX purifier
Cravat (several uses)
More 550 cord
2 large contractor garbage bags
Slightely larger IFAC w/ field compress (we carry a robust IFAK on our IBA)
Extra batteries (3V and AAA)
Carbiner
Couple of granola bars
Compass
In my Maxpedition Jumbo S-type:
Sil-poncho
N95 respirator
Swedish Army firesteel
Wetfire tinders
space blanket
Pat Crawford Kaspar neck knife
Leatherman Juice KF-4
Nalgene bottle
steel cup
Altoids tin with fishing kit, sewing kit, wire saw, 550 cord, safty pins, etc
more 550 cord
Bic lighter
Surfire G2
2 Cliff bars
nomex gloves
Israeli dressing
shooting glasses
zip ties
hanky
boonie hat
rain jacket
I have room for other stuff too if the weather or situation dictates:
Handgun + ammo
neck gaiter
socks
radio
Fire
Shelter
Water
Signaling
Food
Scrapyard Dumpster Mutt,
Victorinox SAK,
First Aid Kit,
Fire Starting Kit,
Space Blanket,
Para Cord,
Floss,
Freezer Bags,
Sighting Mirror,
Silva Compass,
Jet Scream Whistle,
Bandana,
Nylon Cord,
Duct Tape,
Maglite or Petzl Tikka XP Headtorch depending onactivity etc,
$3 in quarters.
-Drop cloth, 2mil, 9x12. Shelter building.
-Whipped potato packet (shiny and red item). Dinner.
-Light meals packet (other shiny item, sorry about the glare) 4 slim jims, 4 granola bars, 12 starburst candies, 2 packets e'mergen'c supplement powder.
-Fire pouch- 2x cases lacquered strike anywheres matches, mini bic, 3 small candles (tinder), cotton balls (tinder)
-work gloves
-mesh safety vest
-tupperware container with a Gundig 100 miniature AM/FM/SW receiver, 8 AA, 4 AAA and 2 CR123
-Cutter Advanced insect repellent
-6 wet ones
-sun block
-purell
-sisal twine
-flagging tape
-aluminum foil, folded (since replaced with a larger peice)
-TP
-white Krill lamp, attached with a mini-biner, attached to the inside of the bag and shown here flipped out.
-mini Nalgene, since replaced a rectangular lab-grade Nalgene of similar capacity.
-Not shown: spool of solid core speaker wire (strip it as needed)
Carried in the map pockets behind the panels:
-5' of 1" tubular nylon webbing, very versatile.
-repair kit with 1" and 1.5" replacement buckles, triglides and an annex clip.
-2 HD contractor bags. Each is in a ziplock to protect the bag from friction, and becuase it is a good place for a couple of ziplocks. One of these is carried in each panel.
-Paracord, approx 50'. It is in four bundles to make it easier to manage, and packed in a ziplock to lessen the risk of it getting tangled.
-mini Nalgene bottle (like the other, this bottle has since been swapped for a square one)
-1 pair socks. Socks are good.
-hair pick, easier to pack than a brush
-zip ties
-match case
-AMK Heatsheet emergency bivy
-Esbit stove (the grey and black stripy thing) with six tablets, aluminum wind sheilds and mini bic. Packed in a carboard sleeve to keep it from rubbing against other items and ziplocked to keep it dry.
-watch cap, with core survival kit inside, wrapped in two one-gallon ziplocks
-FAK
-light meal pack, as above
-laminated copy of Doug Ritter's PSP emergency instructions
-not shown: 4 cut down and laminated sheets of blaze orange paper, pre punched with holes
The core survival kit is packed in a French(?) surplus two piece mess tin.
-1 pouch with 4 bags of green tea, 8 sugar packets, 4 True Lemon packets
-4 Walnettos
-4 ramen seasoning packets (2 beef, 2 chicken)
-Match case w/ laquered strike anywheres matches, 3 stay lit birthday candles
-8 assorted safety pins
-2' fish tank tubing
-2 mini glow lights, with built in clips for fishing poles (holds onto anything)
-3 breast milk bags
-pencil stub, unsharpened
-MagLite Solitaire (batteries are common and I can rebuild it by touch) with two spare bulbs in the base
-spare AAA battery
-Victorinox Camper
-10 immodium
-bottle of Potable Aqua
-bottle of PA+ neutralizer
-magnesium fire starter (cut down) with a piece of hacksaw blade , a small file and a craftsman 4-way coin screwdriver attached
-full sparklite kit
-tube with duct tape, red electricans tape, 20# spider wire, glasses screws
-tube with 20# spider wire, snare wire, fishing kit:
--12 assorted hooks
--large fish hook/gaff, with tack
--10 assorted needles, including one for a sewing machine to use as a micro awl
--8 screw eyes (2 large, 6 small)
--8 sinkers
--3 swivels
--5 US dimes
--several assorted sequins (bait)
-micro screwdriver, with a 3/64" drill bit, large awl needle, awl/scribe, 2 mini philips drivers, 2 mini standard drivers inside
-small spool sewing thread
-small vial each of salt, chili powder
-zip ties
-3 fishing leaders
-3' square of caterer's grade heavy duty foil
-mini wound kit (2 2x2s, 4 1x3" bandaids, 1 knuckle bandaid, 1 fingertip)
-8 tinderquiks scattered about the kit and several short lengths sisal twine
The FAK is based on the older style USGI design. It is wrapped wita length of red, 1" nylon web with a double adjust buckle. A whistle is clipped to the top of the webbing where it can found day or night by touch.
-1 pr nitrile gloves
-1 trauma dressing (the older military type)
-1 cravate
-1 3" roller gauze
-4 4x4 gauze
-4 bandaids
-2 knuckle bandaids
-2 fingertip bandaids
-6 closure strips
-1 small roll of duct tape (I bet everyone saw that coming)
-3 provo-iodine wipes
-4 alcohol wipes
-12 asprin
-12 tylenol
-12 advil (I know, the three are redundent, but each works better for something for me- tylenol for the head, advil for the body, asprin when I'm sick)
-20 immodium
-6 benydril
-8 sudafed (the real thing, not the reformulated junk)
-1 pr tweezers
-1 surgical prep razor, 2 razor blades
-8 medium safety pins
-1 pr earplugs
-mini bic (spare)
-inventory sheet
Safety pins (2 lg, 2 sm)
Needles (4)
Small spool of Spiderwire fishing line
Small signal mirror
Small whistle
Small LED light (Inova's Microlight)
Sparklight striker
Tinder (4 of the Sparklite tinder bundles)
Fresnel lens
Mini Bic lighter
Small pencil and a couple of small notecards (waterproof ones)
Razor blade
Tin foil (about 1X1 foot square)
Utility wire (about 8 feet, not sure of the guage...Army trip wire)
Nylon cord (550 cord inner string) about 30 feet
Button compass (it sucks, but is just a back up to my EDC)
Small role of duct tape
MSR MIOX purifier
Cravat (several uses)
More 550 cord
2 large contractor garbage bags
Slightely larger IFAC w/ field compress (we carry a robust IFAK on our IBA)
Extra batteries (3V and AAA)
Carbiner
Couple of granola bars
Compass
In my Maxpedition Jumbo S-type:
Sil-poncho
N95 respirator
Swedish Army firesteel
Wetfire tinders
space blanket
Pat Crawford Kaspar neck knife
Leatherman Juice KF-4
Nalgene bottle
steel cup
Altoids tin with fishing kit, sewing kit, wire saw, 550 cord, safty pins, etc
more 550 cord
Bic lighter
Surfire G2
2 Cliff bars
nomex gloves
Israeli dressing
shooting glasses
zip ties
hanky
boonie hat
rain jacket
I have room for other stuff too if the weather or situation dictates:
Handgun + ammo
neck gaiter
socks
radio
Fire
Shelter
Water
Signaling
Food
Scrapyard Dumpster Mutt,
Victorinox SAK,
First Aid Kit,
Fire Starting Kit,
Space Blanket,
Para Cord,
Floss,
Freezer Bags,
Sighting Mirror,
Silva Compass,
Jet Scream Whistle,
Bandana,
Nylon Cord,
Duct Tape,
Maglite or Petzl Tikka XP Headtorch depending onactivity etc,
$3 in quarters.
-Drop cloth, 2mil, 9x12. Shelter building.
-Whipped potato packet (shiny and red item). Dinner.
-Light meals packet (other shiny item, sorry about the glare) 4 slim jims, 4 granola bars, 12 starburst candies, 2 packets e'mergen'c supplement powder.
-Fire pouch- 2x cases lacquered strike anywheres matches, mini bic, 3 small candles (tinder), cotton balls (tinder)
-work gloves
-mesh safety vest
-tupperware container with a Gundig 100 miniature AM/FM/SW receiver, 8 AA, 4 AAA and 2 CR123
-Cutter Advanced insect repellent
-6 wet ones
-sun block
-purell
-sisal twine
-flagging tape
-aluminum foil, folded (since replaced with a larger peice)
-TP
-white Krill lamp, attached with a mini-biner, attached to the inside of the bag and shown here flipped out.
-mini Nalgene, since replaced a rectangular lab-grade Nalgene of similar capacity.
-Not shown: spool of solid core speaker wire (strip it as needed)
Carried in the map pockets behind the panels:
-5' of 1" tubular nylon webbing, very versatile.
-repair kit with 1" and 1.5" replacement buckles, triglides and an annex clip.
-2 HD contractor bags. Each is in a ziplock to protect the bag from friction, and becuase it is a good place for a couple of ziplocks. One of these is carried in each panel.
-Paracord, approx 50'. It is in four bundles to make it easier to manage, and packed in a ziplock to lessen the risk of it getting tangled.
-mini Nalgene bottle (like the other, this bottle has since been swapped for a square one)
-1 pair socks. Socks are good.
-hair pick, easier to pack than a brush
-zip ties
-match case
-AMK Heatsheet emergency bivy
-Esbit stove (the grey and black stripy thing) with six tablets, aluminum wind sheilds and mini bic. Packed in a carboard sleeve to keep it from rubbing against other items and ziplocked to keep it dry.
-watch cap, with core survival kit inside, wrapped in two one-gallon ziplocks
-FAK
-light meal pack, as above
-laminated copy of Doug Ritter's PSP emergency instructions
-not shown: 4 cut down and laminated sheets of blaze orange paper, pre punched with holes
The core survival kit is packed in a French(?) surplus two piece mess tin.
-1 pouch with 4 bags of green tea, 8 sugar packets, 4 True Lemon packets
-4 Walnettos
-4 ramen seasoning packets (2 beef, 2 chicken)
-Match case w/ laquered strike anywheres matches, 3 stay lit birthday candles
-8 assorted safety pins
-2' fish tank tubing
-2 mini glow lights, with built in clips for fishing poles (holds onto anything)
-3 breast milk bags
-pencil stub, unsharpened
-MagLite Solitaire (batteries are common and I can rebuild it by touch) with two spare bulbs in the base
-spare AAA battery
-Victorinox Camper
-10 immodium
-bottle of Potable Aqua
-bottle of PA+ neutralizer
-magnesium fire starter (cut down) with a piece of hacksaw blade , a small file and a craftsman 4-way coin screwdriver attached
-full sparklite kit
-tube with duct tape, red electricans tape, 20# spider wire, glasses screws
-tube with 20# spider wire, snare wire, fishing kit:
--12 assorted hooks
--large fish hook/gaff, with tack
--10 assorted needles, including one for a sewing machine to use as a micro awl
--8 screw eyes (2 large, 6 small)
--8 sinkers
--3 swivels
--5 US dimes
--several assorted sequins (bait)
-micro screwdriver, with a 3/64" drill bit, large awl needle, awl/scribe, 2 mini philips drivers, 2 mini standard drivers inside
-small spool sewing thread
-small vial each of salt, chili powder
-zip ties
-3 fishing leaders
-3' square of caterer's grade heavy duty foil
-mini wound kit (2 2x2s, 4 1x3" bandaids, 1 knuckle bandaid, 1 fingertip)
-8 tinderquiks scattered about the kit and several short lengths sisal twine
The FAK is based on the older style USGI design. It is wrapped wita length of red, 1" nylon web with a double adjust buckle. A whistle is clipped to the top of the webbing where it can found day or night by touch.
-1 pr nitrile gloves
-1 trauma dressing (the older military type)
-1 cravate
-1 3" roller gauze
-4 4x4 gauze
-4 bandaids
-2 knuckle bandaids
-2 fingertip bandaids
-6 closure strips
-1 small roll of duct tape (I bet everyone saw that coming)
-3 provo-iodine wipes
-4 alcohol wipes
-12 asprin
-12 tylenol
-12 advil (I know, the three are redundent, but each works better for something for me- tylenol for the head, advil for the body, asprin when I'm sick)
-20 immodium
-6 benydril
-8 sudafed (the real thing, not the reformulated junk)
-1 pr tweezers
-1 surgical prep razor, 2 razor blades
-8 medium safety pins
-1 pr earplugs
-mini bic (spare)
-inventory sheet
powernoodle
Power Member
- Joined
- Jul 21, 2004
- Messages
- 11,973
more:
- bandanna wrapped in twine
- Opinel #7
- Garrity LED light (VERY lightweight!)
- Eclipse tin with mini FAK
- waterproofed tampon
- firesteel
- fatwood
- BIC wrapped in bright pink flag tape, with rubberband to prevent leakage
- black pouch
- sandpaper
- foil
- various cordage
- poncho
- plastic bag
- chlorine tabs
- duct tape
- whistle
ed crank charge flashlight
led shake charge flashlight
12x magnifying 8x magnifying
old wool sock
tp
ace bandage
stinger personal defense key chain
compass
sug leather gloves
a bag of different rope
victorinox swiss champ victorinox one hand trecker
manix mini manix
2 keep dry tubes with strike anywhere matches
magnesium block
military issue can opener
spyderco teperance
e j ericson mora 2000
e j ericson hand ax
2 bungie cords
black personal organize
braided line
pencil
4 sheets paper
led light
mini bic lighter
hooks and split shot taped in lid
spool of dental floss 100yds
pj cotton
super glue
- several feet of type I paracord
- several feet of duct tape
- several feet of electrical tape
- the rubber bands have now been replaced with ranger bands
- suunto clipper compass (holds everything shut)
- photon freedom
- 2 feet of wire (under bands)
- first aid supplies - bandaids, dressings, alcohol wipes
- lifeboat matches (waterproofed)
- small piece of ferro rod (broken off mag block)
- charcloth
- pj cotton balls
- mini bic
- stayglow classic SAK
- 2 safety pins, 2 needles + thread
- 2 fishing hooks with sinkers +thread
- squidgie (bait)
- paper
- pencil
- match striker pad
- small dog whistle
- zip ties and twist ties
Insect bite ointment/anti-septic
NATO waterproof matches
Spark-lite kit w/tinder
8 Asprin
6 water purification sachets (one sachet purifies 20L of H20)
Fenix E1 w/lithium cell +spare AAA
Fox 40 whistle
Pro-Force survival saw
A carabiner (rated to 400kgs)
2 Durex condoms (extra thick) ...ummm... these need to be replaced ; )
Nalgene (missing from pic)
Boonie hat
Fleece cover
Spare glasses
Two garbage bags
Mini SAS Survival Guide (John Wiseman)
A space blanket (want to get more)
50 feet of paracord
Atwood Bug-out Bar
Leatherman Wave
Inova X5
Chris Reeve Project I (7,5 inch spear point FB) and/or
Cold Steel mini-kukri
Esbit stove and extra fuel tabs.
Pat Crawford Legionnaire neck knife (not in pic)
Duct tape, roll
Boonie hat
A Jones Brothers Entry Tool (7 inch spearpoint FB)
Toothpicks and dental floss (gotta keep the teeth clean)
Another Fox 40 (got whistles?)
Small Prybar with paracord wrap
Peak LED brass Carribbean with momentary switch
Peak LED Matterhorn 3 LED
Surefire SC1 with six spare lithiums
HighGear digital compass/watch/stopwatch (haven't figured out how to use the compass yet),
Small Bic lighter
Silva butane storm lighter
An Otter Box 1,000 in case I need to keep my cellphone dry. Now carrying more Asprin, a glasses cleaning cloth, a tape measure and a spare AAA cell.
Bandanna
Jewellers screwdriver kit (high quality item - 8 bits)
Multi-bit screwdriver (high quality item with 6 bits - 3 flat, 3 phillips)
Ti Spork
Piece of shoe leather (impromptu sharpening kit)
Stainless steel mug
Wallet w/ID
Maxpedition Jumbo (Right Side Carry)*
Waterproof box *
Nalgene Bottle
Serria Alpine cup*
Multi-tool
Compass*
Map*
Fire Starting Kit
Fishing Kit*
100ft Para cord*
Water purification tabs*
100ft Snare wire
Sewing kit (Needle that will fit dental floss)
Signal mirror*
Whistle (Pealess)*
Fixed blade knife
Waterproof notepad*
Space pen
Pencil
Dental floss
Folding knife
Magnifying lens*
First-aid kit
Water collection bags or collapsible jug*
Deck of cards
High energy food*
Wool/Synthetic socks (2 pair)*
Hand crank radio/flashlight*
AAA Mini maglite
AAA Headlamp*
Folding saw*
Space blanket
5 X9 Tarp (plastic sheet, tyvec)
Fire Kit
Waterproof box *
Fire steel w/ striker
Bic lighter
PJ Cotton balls
Char cloth
Matches *
Phat wood
Small candle*
Birch bark
Tinder fungus
Mag bar w/striker*
Fishing Kit*
Waterproof box
100ft Braded fishing line
5 Small hooks
5 Lead shot weights
2 Large hooks
5 Fly lures
3 Insect lures
3 Trebel hooks
1 yoyo reel
10 Small screw eyes
100ft 120lb test line
Knife Maintenance Kit*
Waterproof box
Sharpener
Ceramic rod
Bottle of oil
Cleaning fluid
Sewing kit
Needles (various sizes, at least 1 that fits dental floss)*
Sewing thread
Dental floss
Safety pins 5 small, 5 large*
.fresnel lens-fire
2.150 mono filament(sp)test line(a lot)-fishing, traps, whatever
3.trip wire(a lot)-traps
4.Shred guard dental floss(can't believe I didn't see this on anyone's list)- anything
5. needles x 4
6. safety pin x 2
7. surgical blade
8. signal mirror
9. whistle
10. small bic lighter(ziptied to prevent leak)
11. spark-lite
12. tinder x 3
13. button compass
14. fishing kit(6 hooks various sizes mostly small, 2 small sinkers, 1 small fake bait)- wrapped in foil
16. zip ties x 2
17. all fits into small otter box a little thicker than a deckand a half of cards- very tough waterproof storage
18. 6" 550cord lanyard attached to case-un wrapped its about 5' strand x 2
19. Mini mag light, don't light protonsue to accidental discharge- will be replaced by mini solar powered led.
20. tek lok mounted to the back so it can be worn.
Need to add: tweezers, water tabs, small vial of deet, Bag, bandaids alcohol wipes.
brigadequartermasters.com
tadgear.com
edcdepot.com
lighthound.com
equippedtosurvive.com
2 ultamite fire steels and 10 wet dry tinders
1 spyderco jerry hossum forester
2 spyderco temperance one se and one pe
1 mora 2k
1 mora camp hattchet
1 rat 5
1 sak champ
1 sak mutitool
12 diffrent bandaids
1 ready when you are ice pack
4 silk hankeys
1 crank charge led flash light
3 led glow sticks red green and blue
1 4 led head light
1 pencil sharpener
about 100 fire strawls
6 diffrent zipp loc bags from xxl to the sandwhich bag
1 stainlessteel flask
1 2 quart camel pack 200ft of 550 cord
1 rain fly
1 wind breaker jacket
1 spyderco sharpmaker
5 pairs of gloves 3 leather 2 fleece
100ft of 50lbs test fishing line
8 hooks
3ft of alum foil
1 whistel mirror compass combo
iodine - good for a lot of stuff
firesteel and mag block
bic lighter
sewing needle
a small spool of medium fishing line
some emergency tinder (a small back of pre-shaved mag and cotton balls)
a small set of fish hooks
a few fishing weights
a few bandaids of various sizes
some antibiotic ointment for burns and cuts
some antihistamines (important for me. I have always had resporatory problems and alergies)
some allergy pills
some pain pills
some migrane pills
some glucose tablets for diabetics
some water purification tablets
an emergency pancho
a metal cup
two flares
a whistle
a tiny pocket knife with scalpel size blades that are razor sharp
some clean whipes
a small rolled up batch of toilet paper
a few energy bars
It seems like a ton of stuff but it actually all fits in a coffee can.
I have a cheap fanny pack that I picked up at a yard sale for 2 bucks and have the following in it.
Puuko
SAK Trekker
CS twist lock knife
Bic lighter
Firesteel
Torch lighter
20 feet of hemp rope
30 feet of 550 cord
2 compasses (one with wistle)
High gear wistle with compass and LED light, magnifying glass and mirror
Char cloth
small roll of birch bark
LED flashlight with spare battery (very small)
Small sharpening steel
Small sewing kit (as seen before)
matches in case
small jar of vasiline
small tube of purell
small candle
dental floss
iodine tabs
carmax
2 ultamite fire steels and 10 wet dry tinders
1 spyderco jerry hossum forester
2 spyderco temperance one se and one pe
1 mora 2k
1 mora camp hattchet
1 rat 5
1 sak champ
1 sak mutitool
12 diffrent bandaids
1 ready when you are ice pack
4 silk hankeys
1 crank charge led flash light
4 led glow sticks red green and blue
1 4 led head light
1 pencil sharpener
about 100 fire strawls
6 diffrent zipp loc bags from xxl to the sandwhich bag
1 stainlessteel flask
1 2 quart camel pack
200ft of 550 cord
1 rain fly
1 wind breaker jacket
1 spyderco sharpmaker
5 pairs of gloves 3 leather 2 fleece
100ft of 50lbs test fishing line
8 hooks
3ft of alum foil
1 whistel mirror compass combo
Carry in vehicle:
Flares or reflective triangles.
Flashlight and batteries.
Jumper cables.
Small first-aid kit.
Quart of oil.
Pen and paper.
Help/call police sign and bright-colored cloth to tie to your antenna.
Tire inflator.
Multipurpose tool like the Leatherman tool.
Rags and blanket.
Pocket knife.
Cell-phone charger.
Bottle of water to drink (never pour on windshield in winter conditions).
High-calorie dried foods.
Extra windshield wiper fluid.
Collapsible shovel.
Windshield scraper.
Road maps for the states where you'll be traveling.
Candle and matches in a waterproof container.
Gloves.
- bandanna wrapped in twine
- Opinel #7
- Garrity LED light (VERY lightweight!)
- Eclipse tin with mini FAK
- waterproofed tampon
- firesteel
- fatwood
- BIC wrapped in bright pink flag tape, with rubberband to prevent leakage
- black pouch
- sandpaper
- foil
- various cordage
- poncho
- plastic bag
- chlorine tabs
- duct tape
- whistle
ed crank charge flashlight
led shake charge flashlight
12x magnifying 8x magnifying
old wool sock
tp
ace bandage
stinger personal defense key chain
compass
sug leather gloves
a bag of different rope
victorinox swiss champ victorinox one hand trecker
manix mini manix
2 keep dry tubes with strike anywhere matches
magnesium block
military issue can opener
spyderco teperance
e j ericson mora 2000
e j ericson hand ax
2 bungie cords
black personal organize
braided line
pencil
4 sheets paper
led light
mini bic lighter
hooks and split shot taped in lid
spool of dental floss 100yds
pj cotton
super glue
- several feet of type I paracord
- several feet of duct tape
- several feet of electrical tape
- the rubber bands have now been replaced with ranger bands
- suunto clipper compass (holds everything shut)
- photon freedom
- 2 feet of wire (under bands)
- first aid supplies - bandaids, dressings, alcohol wipes
- lifeboat matches (waterproofed)
- small piece of ferro rod (broken off mag block)
- charcloth
- pj cotton balls
- mini bic
- stayglow classic SAK
- 2 safety pins, 2 needles + thread
- 2 fishing hooks with sinkers +thread
- squidgie (bait)
- paper
- pencil
- match striker pad
- small dog whistle
- zip ties and twist ties
Insect bite ointment/anti-septic
NATO waterproof matches
Spark-lite kit w/tinder
8 Asprin
6 water purification sachets (one sachet purifies 20L of H20)
Fenix E1 w/lithium cell +spare AAA
Fox 40 whistle
Pro-Force survival saw
A carabiner (rated to 400kgs)
2 Durex condoms (extra thick) ...ummm... these need to be replaced ; )
Nalgene (missing from pic)
Boonie hat
Fleece cover
Spare glasses
Two garbage bags
Mini SAS Survival Guide (John Wiseman)
A space blanket (want to get more)
50 feet of paracord
Atwood Bug-out Bar
Leatherman Wave
Inova X5
Chris Reeve Project I (7,5 inch spear point FB) and/or
Cold Steel mini-kukri
Esbit stove and extra fuel tabs.
Pat Crawford Legionnaire neck knife (not in pic)
Duct tape, roll
Boonie hat
A Jones Brothers Entry Tool (7 inch spearpoint FB)
Toothpicks and dental floss (gotta keep the teeth clean)
Another Fox 40 (got whistles?)
Small Prybar with paracord wrap
Peak LED brass Carribbean with momentary switch
Peak LED Matterhorn 3 LED
Surefire SC1 with six spare lithiums
HighGear digital compass/watch/stopwatch (haven't figured out how to use the compass yet),
Small Bic lighter
Silva butane storm lighter
An Otter Box 1,000 in case I need to keep my cellphone dry. Now carrying more Asprin, a glasses cleaning cloth, a tape measure and a spare AAA cell.
Bandanna
Jewellers screwdriver kit (high quality item - 8 bits)
Multi-bit screwdriver (high quality item with 6 bits - 3 flat, 3 phillips)
Ti Spork
Piece of shoe leather (impromptu sharpening kit)
Stainless steel mug
Wallet w/ID
Maxpedition Jumbo (Right Side Carry)*
Waterproof box *
Nalgene Bottle
Serria Alpine cup*
Multi-tool
Compass*
Map*
Fire Starting Kit
Fishing Kit*
100ft Para cord*
Water purification tabs*
100ft Snare wire
Sewing kit (Needle that will fit dental floss)
Signal mirror*
Whistle (Pealess)*
Fixed blade knife
Waterproof notepad*
Space pen
Pencil
Dental floss
Folding knife
Magnifying lens*
First-aid kit
Water collection bags or collapsible jug*
Deck of cards
High energy food*
Wool/Synthetic socks (2 pair)*
Hand crank radio/flashlight*
AAA Mini maglite
AAA Headlamp*
Folding saw*
Space blanket
5 X9 Tarp (plastic sheet, tyvec)
Fire Kit
Waterproof box *
Fire steel w/ striker
Bic lighter
PJ Cotton balls
Char cloth
Matches *
Phat wood
Small candle*
Birch bark
Tinder fungus
Mag bar w/striker*
Fishing Kit*
Waterproof box
100ft Braded fishing line
5 Small hooks
5 Lead shot weights
2 Large hooks
5 Fly lures
3 Insect lures
3 Trebel hooks
1 yoyo reel
10 Small screw eyes
100ft 120lb test line
Knife Maintenance Kit*
Waterproof box
Sharpener
Ceramic rod
Bottle of oil
Cleaning fluid
Sewing kit
Needles (various sizes, at least 1 that fits dental floss)*
Sewing thread
Dental floss
Safety pins 5 small, 5 large*
.fresnel lens-fire
2.150 mono filament(sp)test line(a lot)-fishing, traps, whatever
3.trip wire(a lot)-traps
4.Shred guard dental floss(can't believe I didn't see this on anyone's list)- anything
5. needles x 4
6. safety pin x 2
7. surgical blade
8. signal mirror
9. whistle
10. small bic lighter(ziptied to prevent leak)
11. spark-lite
12. tinder x 3
13. button compass
14. fishing kit(6 hooks various sizes mostly small, 2 small sinkers, 1 small fake bait)- wrapped in foil
16. zip ties x 2
17. all fits into small otter box a little thicker than a deckand a half of cards- very tough waterproof storage
18. 6" 550cord lanyard attached to case-un wrapped its about 5' strand x 2
19. Mini mag light, don't light protonsue to accidental discharge- will be replaced by mini solar powered led.
20. tek lok mounted to the back so it can be worn.
Need to add: tweezers, water tabs, small vial of deet, Bag, bandaids alcohol wipes.
brigadequartermasters.com
tadgear.com
edcdepot.com
lighthound.com
equippedtosurvive.com
2 ultamite fire steels and 10 wet dry tinders
1 spyderco jerry hossum forester
2 spyderco temperance one se and one pe
1 mora 2k
1 mora camp hattchet
1 rat 5
1 sak champ
1 sak mutitool
12 diffrent bandaids
1 ready when you are ice pack
4 silk hankeys
1 crank charge led flash light
3 led glow sticks red green and blue
1 4 led head light
1 pencil sharpener
about 100 fire strawls
6 diffrent zipp loc bags from xxl to the sandwhich bag
1 stainlessteel flask
1 2 quart camel pack 200ft of 550 cord
1 rain fly
1 wind breaker jacket
1 spyderco sharpmaker
5 pairs of gloves 3 leather 2 fleece
100ft of 50lbs test fishing line
8 hooks
3ft of alum foil
1 whistel mirror compass combo
iodine - good for a lot of stuff
firesteel and mag block
bic lighter
sewing needle
a small spool of medium fishing line
some emergency tinder (a small back of pre-shaved mag and cotton balls)
a small set of fish hooks
a few fishing weights
a few bandaids of various sizes
some antibiotic ointment for burns and cuts
some antihistamines (important for me. I have always had resporatory problems and alergies)
some allergy pills
some pain pills
some migrane pills
some glucose tablets for diabetics
some water purification tablets
an emergency pancho
a metal cup
two flares
a whistle
a tiny pocket knife with scalpel size blades that are razor sharp
some clean whipes
a small rolled up batch of toilet paper
a few energy bars
It seems like a ton of stuff but it actually all fits in a coffee can.
I have a cheap fanny pack that I picked up at a yard sale for 2 bucks and have the following in it.
Puuko
SAK Trekker
CS twist lock knife
Bic lighter
Firesteel
Torch lighter
20 feet of hemp rope
30 feet of 550 cord
2 compasses (one with wistle)
High gear wistle with compass and LED light, magnifying glass and mirror
Char cloth
small roll of birch bark
LED flashlight with spare battery (very small)
Small sharpening steel
Small sewing kit (as seen before)
matches in case
small jar of vasiline
small tube of purell
small candle
dental floss
iodine tabs
carmax
2 ultamite fire steels and 10 wet dry tinders
1 spyderco jerry hossum forester
2 spyderco temperance one se and one pe
1 mora 2k
1 mora camp hattchet
1 rat 5
1 sak champ
1 sak mutitool
12 diffrent bandaids
1 ready when you are ice pack
4 silk hankeys
1 crank charge led flash light
4 led glow sticks red green and blue
1 4 led head light
1 pencil sharpener
about 100 fire strawls
6 diffrent zipp loc bags from xxl to the sandwhich bag
1 stainlessteel flask
1 2 quart camel pack
200ft of 550 cord
1 rain fly
1 wind breaker jacket
1 spyderco sharpmaker
5 pairs of gloves 3 leather 2 fleece
100ft of 50lbs test fishing line
8 hooks
3ft of alum foil
1 whistel mirror compass combo
Carry in vehicle:
Flares or reflective triangles.
Flashlight and batteries.
Jumper cables.
Small first-aid kit.
Quart of oil.
Pen and paper.
Help/call police sign and bright-colored cloth to tie to your antenna.
Tire inflator.
Multipurpose tool like the Leatherman tool.
Rags and blanket.
Pocket knife.
Cell-phone charger.
Bottle of water to drink (never pour on windshield in winter conditions).
High-calorie dried foods.
Extra windshield wiper fluid.
Collapsible shovel.
Windshield scraper.
Road maps for the states where you'll be traveling.
Candle and matches in a waterproof container.
Gloves.
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2002
- Messages
- 3,291
I think that the best advice that I can offer up is, choose your gear according to your physical limitations, skill sets, area you plan to be in, your personal needs and your spending power.
Choose gear that doesn't have a bunch of bling-bling. Keep it simple and easy to use. otherwise you will be spending a lot of time and energy getting it all to work. Have backup for the more important gear like knives, firestarting tools and tinder, water purification, food gathering, signaling, orienteering, self protection, personal medication and eyeglasses, etc.
If you feel confident in your skill levels, you still need to practice them. If you are without skills or are lacking in knowledge, now is the time to start working on them. Don't read the book on how to swim after you fall into the water. Be prepared and your chances of survival increase a 1000 fold.
Choose gear that doesn't have a bunch of bling-bling. Keep it simple and easy to use. otherwise you will be spending a lot of time and energy getting it all to work. Have backup for the more important gear like knives, firestarting tools and tinder, water purification, food gathering, signaling, orienteering, self protection, personal medication and eyeglasses, etc.
If you feel confident in your skill levels, you still need to practice them. If you are without skills or are lacking in knowledge, now is the time to start working on them. Don't read the book on how to swim after you fall into the water. Be prepared and your chances of survival increase a 1000 fold.
- Joined
- Jul 4, 2009
- Messages
- 7
Be sure to distinguish between an EDC bag and a BOB. Even in BOB's there's differentiation. For some it's a GHB (get home bag), for others it's an INCH (I'm Never Coming Home). It depends on where you're bugging out from and where you're heading.
I use a Maxpedition Sitka as my EDC bag. It has some similarities to my BOB. It has a first-aid kit (FAK), spare magazines, meds, emergency cash, copies of essential documents, a flash drive with pics of belongings and important documents, and some survival gear (very minimalist). However, it's not my primary SHTF bag. But, if it's all I had when I had to bug out, it's certainly more than 99% of the population is going to have with them.
To answer your original question, though, it's a little of both. You want the bag to be suitable for it's desired use and appropriate for your physical size/stamina. However, you do have to have a general idea if your gear is going to fit or not. Plan ahead, determine your needs/intended use. Then, IMO, buy the bag first and lay it out accordingly.
I use a Maxpedition Sitka as my EDC bag. It has some similarities to my BOB. It has a first-aid kit (FAK), spare magazines, meds, emergency cash, copies of essential documents, a flash drive with pics of belongings and important documents, and some survival gear (very minimalist). However, it's not my primary SHTF bag. But, if it's all I had when I had to bug out, it's certainly more than 99% of the population is going to have with them.
To answer your original question, though, it's a little of both. You want the bag to be suitable for it's desired use and appropriate for your physical size/stamina. However, you do have to have a general idea if your gear is going to fit or not. Plan ahead, determine your needs/intended use. Then, IMO, buy the bag first and lay it out accordingly.
One thing to remember.
You have to carry it.
I have seen kitchen sink BOB's that couldnt be carried a mile on uneven terrain let alone 80 miles in 5 days. The goal is not to live out of the bag for the rest of your life but to get you someplace else with better security and resources.
For the average person a BOB to take you 50 miles should weigh no more than 25-35 lbs.
Most of that would be food, water, shelter and protection and items to augment those goals. The rest is dead weight. Keep it simple and effective.
And remember you have to CARRY! it.
Skam
You have to carry it.
I have seen kitchen sink BOB's that couldnt be carried a mile on uneven terrain let alone 80 miles in 5 days. The goal is not to live out of the bag for the rest of your life but to get you someplace else with better security and resources.
For the average person a BOB to take you 50 miles should weigh no more than 25-35 lbs.
Most of that would be food, water, shelter and protection and items to augment those goals. The rest is dead weight. Keep it simple and effective.
And remember you have to CARRY! it.
Skam
I have 3 seperate bags.
I have my everyday backpack that carries things I need on a regular basis and includes a med-kit and a lot of small tools among other things.
My 2nd bag is more of a range bag that has survival gear in it, knives, ammo, stove, water purifiers, and various smaller waist packs filled with things such as ammo.
My 3rd bag is a tough suitcase type bag that has in it a few changes of clothes, another med-kit and a toiletries bag. This bag is also long enough for me to throw a long-gun (AMD-65 and/or Rem 870 both with folding stocks) and machete in it.
The 2nd bag fits in the 3rd bag, and I now have a backpack and a suitcase to grab and go. My 3rd bag is also an emergency travel bag as it will go through any airline security without a blip and is still small enough to fit in the overhead compartment.
Give some though as to what your exact plans are and prepare your gear accordingly.
I have my everyday backpack that carries things I need on a regular basis and includes a med-kit and a lot of small tools among other things.
My 2nd bag is more of a range bag that has survival gear in it, knives, ammo, stove, water purifiers, and various smaller waist packs filled with things such as ammo.
My 3rd bag is a tough suitcase type bag that has in it a few changes of clothes, another med-kit and a toiletries bag. This bag is also long enough for me to throw a long-gun (AMD-65 and/or Rem 870 both with folding stocks) and machete in it.
The 2nd bag fits in the 3rd bag, and I now have a backpack and a suitcase to grab and go. My 3rd bag is also an emergency travel bag as it will go through any airline security without a blip and is still small enough to fit in the overhead compartment.
Give some though as to what your exact plans are and prepare your gear accordingly.
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2006
- Messages
- 7,035
Ideally, you'll assemble the gear and then buy the bag. In the real world, as your experience develops, your gear list changes. You may found you've forgotten a few things, and need a bigger bag. You may find that you've packed things you don't need, and end up using a smaller bag.
IMO key for a GHB/BOB, or EDC bag is to take what you NEED. NEED defined as what will keep you alive, not necessarily comfortable.
For instance, in my hobo days (one of the few segments of people that actually do live out of their bag), I had everything in or on a Medium ALICE pack. If you're not trying to live out of a bag, unsupported, for long terms, you really don't need much.
In fact, a medium ALICE isn't a bad place to start. They're cheap, so if/when you outgrow it, you're not out much money. It's kind of a good size guide, in that if you can't fit it, or if the bag is too heavy, then you need to think about trimming what you carry.
You also said you're planning on this being a car bag. There's been a lot of guys getting their car bag stolen over the years, so I wouldn't make your car's bag a high-budget deal.
IMO key for a GHB/BOB, or EDC bag is to take what you NEED. NEED defined as what will keep you alive, not necessarily comfortable.
For instance, in my hobo days (one of the few segments of people that actually do live out of their bag), I had everything in or on a Medium ALICE pack. If you're not trying to live out of a bag, unsupported, for long terms, you really don't need much.
In fact, a medium ALICE isn't a bad place to start. They're cheap, so if/when you outgrow it, you're not out much money. It's kind of a good size guide, in that if you can't fit it, or if the bag is too heavy, then you need to think about trimming what you carry.
You also said you're planning on this being a car bag. There's been a lot of guys getting their car bag stolen over the years, so I wouldn't make your car's bag a high-budget deal.
