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Hello all, been a looooooooonngg time since I've posted.
I'm in the process of building a new pack and need some advice. I've Googled but didn't really find any definite answers.
I have a nearly unused Spec Ops Recon Ruck Ultra, basically a super duty, modern Alice pack. I've never used it with a frame, but now planning on some longer trips with a bit more gear, not just B.O.B. use and want a frame. I'm considering a Hellcat style rig but not sure which molle style frame will work well. There seems to be a frame designed for both alice and molle, 1606, which most use, but they are much harder to find and many times more expensive. Will a standard Gen 4 molle frame work? I have all my straps, except kidney belt. Thanks for any answers/help!!
 
Unless you have no other options, a civilian internal frame pack will be lighter and more comfortable. For example Osprey Atmos AG or Osprey Xenith for larger loads.
Depends on what capacity you want to... the smaller you the less you have to be concerned about heavy loads.

Of course civilian packs don't have that tactical vibe which may be important to you. A Mystery Ranch (expensive) or a Kifaru (super expensive) would be a good hybrid.

Personally I have a Lowe Alpine Sting which is used by the Dutch Army, internal frame and 1000D cordura... like what you have but larger.
 
The ALICE frame sucks! Uncomfortable beyond belief.

I too recommend you consider and try different packs. The two I now use exclusively are Osprey.
 
I'm actually looking for advice on different frames... looking for an alternative to the ALICE frame.
 
It's been posted on another sub-forum, but you might take a look at hunters' pack frames. They're designed to haul heavy and awkward loads, and have multiple tie-off points, which should be able to accommodate the pack-bag you already have. In the past, I have used a cheap/generic frame as the basis to carry an awkward and heavy fencing bag. I built an adapter to interface between the bag I owned, and the frame I bought.

What I learned was this: Find a comfortable frame (go to a brick and mortar and try several); like finding the right boots, you can't do it online. Once that's done, there are ways to adapt the bag.
 
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