Bullpup Long Range Rifle..... Help Needed

Lennox

Lennox

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I want a DSR1 in 338 Lapua Magnum but my wallet is screaming nooooo :grumpy: . So if any of you guys can point me in a cheaper direction to something similar that will do the same job i will be happier and richer pupp. :D

Isn't she purdy :love_heart:

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Also please feel free to share if you have personal experience with Bullpup rifles in hunting or long range shooting.
 
I personally use my Aug as often as possible for hunting (hogs) and for target shooting out to 300 yards. For precision shooting, i see very little benefit to a bullpup but for hunting they can be very handy. The shorter OAL makes them much easier to move around a stand or through the woods.

I think the Kel Tec RFB is a great rifle for hunting, but .308 won't compete with 338 LM for long range
 
Desert Tactical SRS. About 1/3 the price of the DSR, 60 second caliber change with return to zero with that caliber. I'm trying to get one in .338 Lapua/ .308 Win, but Jerry keeps putting all this INFI in front of me :mad: :D

DTA SRS

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My own Israeli Tavor that I really need to take a deer with this year

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The RFB sure looks like a nice rifle, and a lot cheaper than the DSR-1
 
Tyrade83 said:
but Jerry keeps putting all this INFI in front of me :mad: :D
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This seems to be a recurring problem for me too :D The Desert Tactical SRS at 1/3 the price will definitely have to put on my list of guns to check out before i decide on what to buy.
 
Tyrade83 said:
Desert Tactical SRS. About 1/3 the price of the DSR, 60 second caliber change with return to zero with that caliber. I'm trying to get one in .338 Lapua/ .308 Win, but Jerry keeps putting all this INFI in front of me :mad: :D

DTA SRS

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My own Israeli Tavor that I really need to take a deer with this year

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I really like that Hebrew hammer gun, I keep thinking I need one.
 
I know that you stated that you want a long range capable bullpup. Wanting one and being able to afford it is a good enough of a reason for me but I am curious as to your intended use? I think some of the bullpup LR rifles are pretty cool but past the cool factor I'm not sure I get it for the average shooter. You're not getting any weight savings , it's just a factor of reduced overall length.

As you likely well know , you can buy a supremely nice rifle considerably less than one of the ones you're after. The Desert Arms are pretty reasonable but I get nervous when I start thinking about all the proprietary parts, mags... Ect. If it were my coin I'd go with a Sako TRG42 or something similar.

That being said, if you want one I hope you get it and I hope to hear all about it because, Hell, I like toys just as much as the next guy!
 
benthughes said:
I know that you stated that you want a long range capable bullpup. Wanting one and being able to afford it is a good enough of a reason for me but I am curious as to your intended use? I think some of the bullpup LR rifles are pretty cool but past the cool factor I'm not sure I get it for the average shooter. You're not getting any weight savings , it's just a factor of reduced overall length.

As you likely well know , you can buy a supremely nice rifle considerably less than one of the ones you're after. The Desert Arms are pretty reasonable but I get nervous when I start thinking about all the proprietary parts, mags... Ect. If it were my coin I'd go with a Sako TRG42 or something similar.

That being said, if you want one I hope you get it and I hope to hear all about it because, Hell, I like toys just as much as the next guy!
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It's mostly just a new toy thing :D I have a bunch of good hunting rifles so i don,t need it, I have been shooting some long range with a custom 700 LSS in 300 Ultra Magnum that i got a few years back and i have started to like long range shooting more and more :D
 
cricketdave said:
I really like that Hebrew hammer gun, I keep thinking I need one.
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Do it Dave. The US versions are slightly different (mostly internals for 922r compliance) than the Canadian ones, but after a few thousand rounds through it, it's my favorite small caliber rifle. Well balanced, ergonomic, well thought out. The trigger could be a bit better (I hear the US ones are better, mine is almost 4 years old), but it's not hard to make hits at 200 yds, which is about all I use this rifle for. I wish I could get one in .308 too!
 
I should not have looked at this thread. My wishlist just got longer. Just picked up a Tavor and love it so far.
 
After watching this video by FPSRussia i think i may have to get the SRS.

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Lennox, read this - it saves me typing - http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers-hide-bolt-action-rifles/112007-dsr-1-piece-s-^t.html

Bullpup's work for shorter OAL tactical semi auto rifles where carry ability and balance and free standing use combined with vehicle use and getting a longer barrel for a shorter package mean they are all plus points.

If the rifle is intended for long range prone shooting ( i.e. the only way to shoot well unless off a bench) - to say there are better choices in better calibres which offer way better performance is an understatement.
 
PeterPHWS said:
Lennox, read this - it saves me typing - http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers-hide-bolt-action-rifles/112007-dsr-1-piece-s-^t.html

Bullpup's work for shorter OAL tactical semi auto rifles where carry ability and balance and free standing use combined with vehicle use and getting a longer barrel for a shorter package mean they are all plus points.

If the rifle is intended for long range prone shooting ( i.e. the only way to shoot well unless off a bench) - to say there are better choices in better calibres which offer way better performance is an understatement.
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Thanks Peter, Looks like the DSR-1 is not all it is cracked up to be. Do you have any info or experience on the SRS?
 
The "Stealth Recon Scout" almost says it all in the name ... a hyped up name for the tactical market ... here is a very "pro" review http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/rifles/41978-dta-srs-a1-differences.html

For a .308 calibre bolt action rifle ... why place high value on shorter OAL? The balance point is good if carrying it in hand and shooting free standing ... but bolt action rifles with tactical rails etc are geared up to prone shooting using a scope with a front end mounted infra red/thermal sight or natural light image intensifier sight. So prone shooting comes back into the main use - which means the trigger is important as is the bolt operation - and the cost of the front end sights to improve scope use are so expensive that the tactical long barrel shrouds with picatinny rails are really redundant for most civilian shooters. The thermal sights are the price of a car. The image intensifiers are the cost of a second hand car. The UK DTA rep recently tried to replicate the shot Cpl Harrison took in Afghanistan at 3100m over here in Wales at a long range location. He used a DTA in .375 Chey Tac ... it didn't work out well ... no hits or even an idea of where the shots were going. He used .375CT ammo made by DTA.

My view was that the DTA is probably the best of the bunch on Bullpup bolt action rifles but you get a much better and accurate rifle using a custom action such as a BAT with a Jewell trigger and a custom barrel and can chamber the barrel for a tighter tolerance reamer giving inherently better performance than a SAMMI chambering. For long range performance and cost effective shooting I would think more of a 7mm in a custom chambering using a .270 Norma WSM case necked up to a 7mm and chambered for a Berger 180g VLD or 180g Hybrid.

At 3180fps and a 40MOA incline rail and a NF ATTACR scope you can shoot out to 2600 yards to 2800 yards with an ES of below 15fps and knock spots off a .338 LM in factory ammo ... even the very best .338's such as AI will not be in the same league ... we know because this has recently been done.

This type of rifle in a McMillan A5 tactical stock with a Harris bi-pod and S lock for the bi-pod will be far more effective than any far more expensive Bullpup design.

If you want to go out further a .375 CT with a custom barrel such as a Bartlein and action made by BAT will again out perform any DTA rifle with a SAMMI chambering.

I would rather go "custom" than over priced "tactical" if it were my money.
 
Here's my baby

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Allow me to show you the newest rifle on my grail list. The Scar 17 Bullpup conversion

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I like the Bullpup design for semi auto combat rifles :thumbup:

The only down side for me in a combat role is that I like the effectiveness a 40mm grenade launcher gives you when mounted beneath the barrel/fore end and a bullpup design doesn't leave room for this.

As a civilian rifle though the bullpup is a great choice.
 
thanks for great info Peter :thumbup: i read the review on the DTA SRS-A1 and it looks like this rifle might be a winner :D With the conversion kits starting at 1390$ it is not super expensive to change caliber. Do you know of any dealers in the uk where i can buy the rifle or do you think contacting DTA directly would be the best thing.
 
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