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Burnt edge; lionsteel

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Hey everyone, I got a lionsteel 8800 g10 opera a while ago and it came with a small roll on the edge so I sent it back for a new one. Well, I received my replacement, but now there's 2 problems, the edge still has a small roll and now the edge looks like it was burnt. There is a small brass-like discoloration that is near the edge. I'd post pictures, but the lighting makes it hard to see.

I did some research and it seems as if others have seen this with lionsteels elemax steel. But I have their D2. I'm considering sending it back for a refund, but I wanted some input first. Will a burnt edge compromise the heat treat or functionality of the knife? Or should I just run it through the sharpmaker and call it a day?

I've never had this problem, so this is all new to me. I really love the design of this knife so id hate to get rid of it, is there any way to fix this?
 
I don't know how the edge would roll while being sharpened, and it's impossible to know from your post whether the sharpening process harmed the heat treat. But I think all factory knives should be reprofiled to a clean angle that matches the characteristics of the steel and your intended use. That reprofiling process should clean up any problems you have with the edge.

The Sharpmaker is not ideal for reprofiling or removing damaged metal, so you might want a diamond stone for it.

Or, because you like the knife, why don't you sent it in to one of the excellent sharpeners we have on the forum and have a clean, polished 30-degree edge put on it. That angle allows you to use either of the stone settings on your Sharpmaker and should fix any problems with the edge.
 
A pale straw yellow is the first color change of steel. It may still be fine. Sharpening it properly and reprofiling it will likely get you into steel that hasnt been negatively impacted. If it was blue or black then I would send it back. In the future I would recommend not sending a knife back due to a sharpness or rolled edge issue if all other things are fine. I know the idea of getting a knife with a jacked up edge is ridiculous as the edge is what makes it a knife but if the knife is going to be a user it will need to be sharpened eventually and usually all production knives can benefit from a little edge work even when brand new. As long as all the other aspects of the knife are good I would never send a knife back for not being sharp or having a bur. Id rather have to do a quick strop or touch it to a ceramic rod instead of monkeying with detents, lock and centering issues. Now a safe queen may be a different story as its hard to convince a secondary buyer you bought a knife that wasnt sharp or had a rolled edge.
 
Both of you guys make very valid points. I guess I expected perfection which is a lot to ask for. The steel is pale yellow, almost brass colored in a couple small spots near the bottom so I'll trust you guys and just take some steel off.

Could someone recomend a good affordable diamond stone? Or as Twindog mentioned, a good sharpener on the forums to do it for me?

Thanks a lot guys. I was pretty disappointed until now ;)
 
Spyderco makes diamond rods for the sharpmaker. Otherwise dmt makes a quality diamond hone.
 
Amazon has a set of triangle diamond stones for the Sharpmaker for $42.

Both Richard J and Knifenut1013 sharpen knives at the professional level. There are others, too, if you look around. Check out the maintenance subforum and the section that lists professional knife services. And check out Sodak's sticky on the maintenance subforum for information on using a microbevel. You can have a pro put on a 30-degree bevel and then it will be a breeze to keep sharp with your 40-degree stone setting.

If you like the knife's design, you'll love it with a super well done edge.
 
I haven't had use for a diamond stone yet (nearly all my knives came with razor sharp edges), so I forgot about the spyderco diamond rods. As for the knife, the build quality is amazing, much better than some of my higher end knives. No blade play, tight tolerances, etc. It's just that edge...:mad: But that will change soon!

I can't thank you guys enough, I'm stoked that my knife is fine! :D
 
I have an SR1 in Sleipner and an M2 Hunter fixed blade in D2. Neither exhibit any of the problems you describe, and both were executed flawlessly. Others here might know better the metallurgy, and what that means, but I would send it back for another if I were in your shoes. My $0.02.
 
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