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Dasha Buyanova

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Batoning time

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StrangeDaze said:
This is known as cross grain batoning

Baton = stick

I love my silky saw!
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Baton= Stick. (Noun)

True.

Batoning is a Noun that was turned into a Verb. A Gerund in some circles of thought. Using a stick to strike the spine of a knife to 'split' wood. Done so when one doesn't have an axe.

Batoning means 'splitting' wood using the grain.

Never heard of 'cross grain batoning', but I have heard of 'sawing'.

If I were in a survival situation or just out in the wild for fun, I wouldn't use my knife that way. I'd break up smaller pieces of wood using leverage, my knee or tree branches; to start a fire.

'Cross gain batoning' sounds energy and time consuming. A saw sounds like a better, faster solution.
 
Delgadonine said:
Baton= Stick. (Noun)

True.

Batoning is a Noun that was turned into a Verb. A Gerund in some circles of thought. Using a stick to strike the spine of a knife to 'split' wood. Done so when one doesn't have an axe.

Batoning means 'splitting' wood using the grain.

Never heard of 'cross grain batoning', but I have heard of 'sawing'.

If I were in a survival situation or just out in the wild for fun, I wouldn't use my knife that way. I'd break up smaller pieces of wood using leverage, my knee or tree branches; to start a fire.

'Cross gain batoning' sounds energy and time consuming. A saw sounds like a better, faster solution.
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Yeah if you watch experienced survivalists they tend to just gather small sticks, or break sticks using leverage. You do see people batoning, but it’s usually on a fairly big piece of wood. Generally you don’t see many survivalists batoning most of their wood because you want to keep your knife sharp and undamaged as much as possible when you are in the wild.

Furthermore, most survivalists are just having fun. If batoning is fun, go for it.

Most people that do off grid camping that I know in real life do backpacking. When they go they usually take titanium or metal folding stoves, a lighter, and some kind of tinder. Sometimes they don’t light fires at all, due to the rules of the area. They just eat food that is prepackaged and ready to eat. For their knives the most common I’ve seen are fairly small multi-tools, Victorinox classic being a favorite. Mostly for the nail cleaning. The knife may be used to cut some sausage or cheese or open a package.

This has widely drawn me to the reality of bushcraft. Most bushcraft you see are people pretending to be les stroud in real life. Nothing wrong with that, it does seem fun. But all in all you are probably never going to have to use bushcraft skills to survive in modern times. It’s good to know the basics of firemaking on the extremely rare occasion that you do need it, but it’s essentially just a fun hobby for folks.

People do tend to take it extremely seriously however, with endless discussion on what the best techniques are. Like anything, people will go as far as they can with bushcraft.

For most, they are bringing a lighter, food ready to eat or ready for the fire in a cooler or RV fridge, some logs that are preigniting, and generally they are on a campground with bathrooms and showers. Or they are backpacking. Turns out not many people are interested in going into the woods to poop in a hole anymore. If they do, it’s generally not overnight, and if they do stay overnight, they are in a minority.

A knife breaking in batoning may just be a knife designed to be a good cutter. Maybe you want a knife that is nicely thinly ground and designed to be a knife. Maybe you want a knife that is multi-functional that can preform the roles of an axe and a knife. If you want the latter, you give up the former. No matter what the steel, geometry is going to be a primary factory in performance.

Which brings us back to batoning, something endlessly discussed in knife culture forever.

1) There are better tools for the job.

2) Does it show capabilities of a knife? Sure. But it’s a capability most people will not need or want.

3) If you have fun batoning or find it useful, don’t let anyone spoil your fun.
 
Delgadonine said:
Batoning means 'splitting' wood using the grain.

Never heard of 'cross grain batoning', but I have heard of 'sawing'.
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No, it means whacking a knife with a stick.....
Cross grain batoning is best used for cutting smaller diameter sticks or making notches in sticks for use as tent pegs or for making a trap.
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Arathol said:
No, it means whacking a knife with a stick.....
Cross grain batoning is best used for cutting smaller diameter sticks or making notches in sticks for use as tent pegs or for making a trap.
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Obviously, you can do what you want.

I will do what I need to keep myself and others safe and warm.

I believe if that you are out in the wild, have the right tools and know how to use them all.

If not, know how to start a fire without a knife.
 
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