Busse Combat Company Store, etc.

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Does the Busse Company Store not have any Battle Mistress knives for sale but once every three years? And what is the difference between the Busse Company Store and Busse Combat? Same outfit but two different web sites?

On the FFFBM knives, is a mag handle only thicker, or is it also wider. In other words is the micarta just thicker or is the micarta thicker and wider?
Are mag handles available in linen/paper micarta or just G10 fiberglass?

Is the INFI steel made in the US, or overseas?
 
Busse Combat - Lists blades on their site they are taking orders for. You order & then later they manufacture the knives, bill and ship. Can be anything from weeks to months.

Busse Company Store - Puts large knife orders in with Busse Combat, once they receive them they list them on the site. The knives listed are available for immediate delivery. The BCS also gets knives that were not offered through the Busse Combat site such as the game wardens, the FFBM and the Mean streets they were selling over the past couple of months.
 
kwilson said:
Does the Busse Company Store not have any Battle Mistress knives for sale but once every three years? And what is the difference between the Busse Company Store and Busse Combat? Same outfit but two different web sites?

On the FFFBM knives, is a mag handle only thicker, or is it also wider. In other words is the micarta just thicker or is the micarta thicker and wider?
Are mag handles available in linen/paper micarta or just G10 fiberglass?

Is the INFI steel made in the US, or overseas?
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The Store is a separate business entity. Affiliated with Busse Combat, but not owned by them. There are rumors that there may soon be another influx of Mistresses coming there.

On the SF and Fusion handles, "magnum" means larger swells on thicker material. On the TAC handles, it just means thicker material, swells are the same.

INFI is a commercially available steel plus the Busse heat treat protocol. So technically, it is made only in Wauseon. The underlying alloy appears to share characteristics with a couple of steels from Europe but I don't think Jerry has ever identified his supplier.

Rick
 
rbmcmjr said:
INFI is a commercially available steel
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i don't think infi is commercially available, since jerry and some other metallurgist types fomulated it and it's only made by one company and only for busse combat.
unless i missed something?
 
yes, but it's been a few years, you coming to blade next year? fogo's not the same without you :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:




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gonna do my best bro. june just aint the same without ya'll and fogo and blade and all the trimmins.
 
voracious said:
i don't think infi is commercially available, since jerry and some other metallurgist types fomulated it and it's only made by one company and only for busse combat.
unless i missed something?
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INFI is a proprietary steel and heat-treat protocol developed by Busse Combat Knife Co. It is ONLY available through Busse Combat
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I was trying to convey this:

[INFI] = [a commercial steel] + [Jerry's heat-treat recipe]

Same story with the siblings:

[SR101] = [52100] + [heat-treat]

[S77] = [S7] + [heat-treat]

The steel can be bought but the heat treat can't, unless you buy the finished blade from Busse. I am willing to accept that I am mistaken, but that is how I read things.

Rick
 
Apparently I am wrong, at least with respect to INFI:

ET. . . .Go home!!!!! Just kidding. I just finished reading a thread on the Shop Talk forum titled “What is INFI?” A forum member named E T had an analysis performed on an INFI blade and revealed the majority of INFI’s analysis to the world. Good Work!!! Call us at the shop (419) 923-6471 and I'll send you a free Busse Combat Hat.

E T’s analysis has revealed the following about INFI.

V .36
Cr 8.25
Fe 87.79
Co .95
Ni .74
MO 1.3


This analysis confirms what we have stated all along and that is that INFI is not simply a re-named, already existent steel. It is a steel that we developed and have manufactured exclusively for us by a small mill. We were trying to keep INFI’s analysis proprietary and luckily the analysis is only a small part of what constitutes INFI. The specific manufacturing process is protected, as is our process of Transversion Wave tempering.

I’d like to thank Mike Turber for keeping the analysis a secret for the past couple of years, eventhough, he was bribed constantly to reveal the secret. Mike’s reputation as a gentleman and man of honor speaks for itself. Tim Zowada, who was recently given the specific elemental analysis, has performed extensive tests and developed forging data for INFI. I don’t know how many of you are familiar with Tim but he is the most intense metallurgical freak on the planet. He makes the finest forged blades on earth and writes regularly for Knives Illustrated. If you enter into a conversation on metallurgy with Tim be sure to pack a lunch and a pair of sunglasses. This way you won’t get hungry and the sunglasses will help hide the confused look on your face. Tim has, likewise, kept quiet on INFI’s analysis and for that I am thankful.

Now, back to E T’s analysis. I confirm that your findings are correct. Of course there are some elements missing from your analysis such as carbon and a rather unique ingredient called ________________? Well, we’d might as well make this fun. . . Let’s see. . .what is the rather unique missing ingredient????? If you are the first person to name it you will receive a free Busse Mean Street ($217.00 value). I am allowing only one guess per forum member. Obviously, Mike, Tim, and E T are out of the running. This contest ends on Tuesday, 8/24/99 at 11:00 pm EST. I will announce the winner at that time. Good luck!

Jerry Busse
President
Busse Combat Knife Co.
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Thread is here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84800&highlight=INFI+Nitrogen

So the INFI alloy is also proprietary. Not just the heat-treat.

Rick - eating a little crow
 
Yeah, they forgot Scotch drips.

A Scotch drip, BTW, is a minute droplet of Scotch whisky that drips off the chin and onto the steel.
 
Guyon said:
Yeah, they forgot Scotch drips.

A Scotch drip, BTW, is a minute droplet of Scotch whisky that drips off the chin and onto the steel.
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I heard a rumour that the Scotch Dispenser model is made almost entirely of Scotch drip, fused with a small but adequate dosage of INFI for maximal intoxication. :foot: :D
 
Cobalt said:
both nitrogen and carbon are missing from that analysis.
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I'm surprised they missed the carbon -- although, perhaps they figured that was too obvious to mention??

Nitrogen can be tough to notice in a metal matrix.
 
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