Busse makes their own composites??

resinguy

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From another thread, we have this item:

SpyderPhreak said:
Also, fwiw Busse makes ALL of their own micarta and G10 in-house (at least that is what I was told in an e-mail when looking for some blue and black like theirs to have some gun grips made from).
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This is very interesting. Has anyone else heard of this, or have any info regarding it? Have you ever heard of another high volume knife shop that makes their own handle material?
 
well then, jerry sh!t or get off the pot, with the snake skin nucarta.

no i have never heard of a full blown shop doing all there own synthetic's. one might special order a certain blend, color, strength.
 
Huh? I thought I heard they made a lot of that dyed stuff in house but that is the first I heard about G-10 and Micarta. I don't see how it would be worth the effort. I also remember hearing Jerry say that whoever made the snakeskin cannot make it any longer.
 
It was quite a surprise to me too!!! I was hoping I could get some from their supplier, and asked who it was, and they said we make it here! :eek: Garth confirmed what the ladies said as well.

Another interesting note is that I was also told that exclusive of the 1911 grips (which they do not make in a officer's grip length that I wanted), NONE of their G10 leaves the shop unattached to a knife. :(
 
SpyderPhreak said:
NONE of their G10 leaves the shop unattached to a knife. :(
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I was told that a knife does not get out of the shop without handles attached (obviously aside from skeletonized models), and no handles leave without being attached to a knife...
 
I'm starting to think Jerry has super powers. No ordinary, mortal human can possibly make something that is so comprehensively awesome.
 
resinguy said:
This is very interesting. Has anyone else heard of this, or have any info regarding it? Have you ever heard of another high volume knife shop that makes their own handle material?
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No, but I recommend that some customer with experience in composite matertials science check into it.;)
 
Actually, making micarta and G10 is not that difficult if you are doing it for production runs. Very similar to making fiberglass. So I am not surprised if this is true. Makes sense when you see the cool color combos being put out that you don't see anywhere else.

here this guy makes it with no major equipment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKCu9bU9mg
 
All the info I have on this:
  1. They used to get their composites from a supplier.
  2. There were inconsistency issues (ever notice how some blue-and-black G10 has more black than blue?).
  3. Now they make their own.

This should be obvious from when Jerry showed us tacoflage :p (no offense, just wanted an excuse to bring up tacoflage again)
 
I worked in a composites shop for about a year and a half making moulds and small (~7') carbon-fiber wind turbine blades. I have no reason to disbelieve that Busse is making their own G10, as has been pointed out it isn't terribly difficult and they can be much more consistant that way. That is good news for us!

I found out about this when I was after some of the Busse blue and black G10. MOST of the blue/black G10 on the market is only a single layer of each color, causing the blue layer not to show up anywhere near as well as Busse's, which is 2-3 layers of each color at a time.

I noticed the difference in the G10 color layers when I had some red/black G10 gun grips made. I naively expected the G10 to looks like Busse's, as I thought they just bought it from a manufacturer. The single layer of red barely shows up between the black layers, and I was a bit disappointed with the way they turned out (I was hoping they would look similar to rosewood in overall color). I ended up dying the grip panels for about 2 hours in a simmering pot of some dark red RIT dye. It did help the red show up better, but the grips have a slight pinkish hue now and they still don't look as good as the Busse red/black.

A good shot of my grips. You can easily see how thin the color layers are in this standard G10 (from Alpha Knife supply iirc). The only way to really see the layers is to look at it from the edge like this.
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Typical Busse red/black. The layers are easily visible even from the top.
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My grips from the side (and the gun after a little custom work and being refinished in DLC :D). See how the colors basically blend together?
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Anyway, as far as I am concerned, Busse's G10 is the BEST there is!!!
 
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SpyderPhreak said:
I found out about this when I was after some of the Busse blue and black G10. MOST of the blue/black G10 on the market is only a single layer of each color, causing the blue layer not to show up anywhere near as well as Busse's, which is 2-3 layers of each color at a time.
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I kind of like more black in the G10. But I don't like the inconsistency and unpredictability...
 
that would make sense why certain color combos chance over time:
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There is a gray layer missing from the newer sandstorm g10. I actually prefer it with the older gray layer because it softens up the transitions, makes it less 'bold' and more natural to the namesake.
 
I always thought the Jungle Sandstorm had the Grey and the Desert Sandstorm was without.
 
Ken44 said:
Does anyone know when they started doing this ?
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That is a VERY good question!!!

I am guessing is wasn't all that long ago. Based on the handles on Ganzaa releases, I'd hazard a complete SWA guess of 2-3 years ago.
 
FTR-14c said:
I always thought the Jungle Sandstorm had the Grey and the Desert Sandstorm was without.
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Is that a phrase that's been used by a member of the busse kin company, or only by users/secondary market sellers? I asked for 'sandstorm g10' when purchasing the the le custom and that's what I got. It would be awesome if there were two options because I'd always go with the 'jungle'.
 
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