Busse Questions!

LoveTheBlade

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Prepare to be shocked and dismayed!!! Yes, a lifetime knife lover who has never owned or until a year ago heard of Busse Knives!!! Seriously though, I've done some research, but other than the fact the INFI is supposed to be a superhuman steel, I can't figure out why these knives cost as much as they do. I've been to their website, and they only sell two little models. Not the Quasi-machetes I've sometimes seen pictures of. Could someone help me out here?
Thanks!
 
Originally posted by LoveTheBlade
I can't figure out why these knives cost as much as they do.


Hi :) Welcome to our little corner of the web. In responding to your question of price there is literally nothing anyone can say. We could sit here and give example after example, opinion after opinion, and finally fact after fact. To be honest, none of this will give you or any other person the smallest hint of why we love Busse knives. Why? Simple....YOU have to handle one. Some of us use Busses on a daily basis, and some of us (me included) primarily collect them. No matter what side of the table people come from we've all found something special about Busse knives that appeals to us.

All I can recommend is to pick one up...any one from the active duty to a Mistress. I guarantee it will only take sixty seconds for everyting to become clear ;)


Now about the "example after example, opinion after opinion, and finally fact after fact". If you're ready people will be MORE than happy to flood this thread with more information than you can imagine :)


LET THE POSTING BEGIN!!!!!! :D
 
Ahnold...Ahnold...Ahnold... Oh excuse me,

Und don't forget you can chop all the other girly blades in half!:eek:
 
Originally posted by Dark Nemesis
All I can recommend is to pick one up...any one from the active duty to a Mistress. I guarantee it will only take sixty seconds for everyting to become clear ;)

Don't just pick one up, but use it. Use it hard. Abuse it. First and foremost, Busses are meant to be users. After a while of use and "tough love", you'll have an idea what makes Busses so special.

Some of the Oinkers have awesome collections and lightly use a couple. Some have collections with a few that are thrashed on a regular basis. Others have a couple or few that have become old friends and decided that they need no others.

Whatever the case, it's clear that we like dem Busses. :)
 
Don't listen to the zealots LTB. They are all FOS and wouldn't know the business end of a blade if it bit them. You are right. Busses are overpriced and underengineered, good for nothing, cheap, pakastani rip off blades.

ATTENTION HOGS! If we are not careful someone is going to convince him of Busse's superiority and there will be less INFI for us to compete for. SCRAMBLE! SCRAMBLE!:D
 
I was sold on Busse Combat as soon as I handled my first which was an NO-E. My feelings were set in concrete when I got my SH-E and actually used it!

Awesome blades, awesome warranty, awesome customer service, awesome family. What else can I say but get one and if you regret it, I will buy it off you!:D
 
Lovetheblade, welcome to our forum.

Like was already said, any of us can start telling our experiences before and after Busse knives.

Take a couple hours, and read back through previous threads. You will find more unsolicited information. This is what helped me take the first step.

I don't know what area of the country you are in, but if you get a chance to go to a show where some models are on display, by all means, check some out.

The product line is undergoing a change right now. That accounts for the limited number of models shown on the site.

You can see many of the previously made models, along with a nice collection of some one-offs on the "Archive" thread at the top of the forum.

You can also see, whether on the Sale forums here, or on Ebay, that the residual value of Busse knives often exceeds the original sale price. This may be something to keep in mind if you want to buy one, and see how it measures up when you show it your style of lovin'....

I don't know your usage parameters from your post. From threads on this forum, you will find people whose use(s) will no doubt parallel yours. There is plenty of information here.

If any of us can help (gotta keep your eye on a couple of them though... ;) ) please, just ask. No flaming here, just helpful (well, maybe a couple pranksters...) folks hangin out.

We prefer to have fun here. Hope you expand your collection, and hang around bud!!

Mike
thathamguy
 
"I've done some research, but other than the fact the INFI is supposed to be a superhuman steel, I can't figure out why these knives cost as much as they do."

There are lots of reasons. On the demand side of the equation:

Some people think it is realistic that a knife's reliability when used hard in extenuating circumstances may be a matter of life and death for them, some day. Some of these people think that Busse knives are the most reliable that they are aware of and have been able to find. And some of these people are willing to pay a premium for the most reliable knives, to have the best "life insurance" available. (I happen to be one of these people.)

Some people place a high value on an unconditional, transferable, lifetime warranty. Besides the obvious fact that it means you get replacements or repairs of damaged goods, it also can show that the maker trusts the product's ability to withstand as broad of a scope of use as the purchaser may choose to perform--trusts this enough to put his money where his mouth is. It can also show that the maker trusts the purchaser, and is willing to be honest in his dealings. (I happen to be one of these people, too.)

Some people consider it important to have a personal relationship with a maker who is trustworthy and accountable--someone who will personally discuss options with you and guide you through the process of getting what is right for you, someone who will call you up to make sure that the product meets your satisfaction, someone who will personally expedite making things right when issues arise--and someone whose product you can utterly trust because you trust him personally, because he's earned your friendship as well as your business. (I happen to be one of these people, as well.)

Some uncompromising people simply like to have the best, and are willing to pay a high premium for the privelege. Those who demand the best and think Busses are the best don't balk at the prices Busses fetch. (In some areas, this describes me, too.)

Some people enjoy collecting beautiful, rare--or even unique--collectibles, and are willing to pay for the privelege. For many, Busse knives are a satisfying area for collecting.

Some people like investing in a commodity which, historically, has held its value well, or even increased over time. Busse knives are such a commodity.

The Busse Combat Knives Team has the business know-how to drum up demand, even at moderately steep prices. (They're actually not that expensive, in comparison to their closest functional competitiors.) And, generally speaking, the cost is what the market will bear.

I'm sure there are plenty of other demand-side reasons, too, but I'm getting too tired to think about it.

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On the supply side of the price equation:

Designing and creating your own steel from scratch--the steel with the best combination of hardness, toughness, and strength on the market (for its intended use)--is a lengthy and expensive undertaking. It is reasonable to demand compensation for this.

Researching and performing the most extensive heat treatment and cryogenic treatment on the market isn't cheap, either.

Making every knife by hand in a shop (as opposed to entirely by machines, in a factory) costs, too.

Testing every knife is another significant expense.

Offering various associated services, such as free resharpenings, also adds to the purchase price.

And, yup, he probably makes a tidy profit. I don't begrudge him this; I hope he does. He's continually pushed the limits, innovated, in material design, blade design, functionality, textures, aesthetics, etc. He's made sure to stay personally accessible to his customers. He's donated huge numbers of blades to soldiers, and been a generous supporter of good causes. He's put in the time, effort, and money to make uncompromisingly the best product he can make, and the best product I can get. He deserves his fair share.

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Does all this mean that his knives are worth the price? Value is an individual thing, and I won't presume to make that determination for you. I'll just say that they're worth it to me.

--Mike

P.S. It might be hard to imagine or accept that Busse knives perform as described. As has been said, earlier, you have to try one, yourself, to properly appreciate it. Gundy has graciously offered to buy it off you, if you regret it... so you have nothing to lose.
 
lol... just realized that all the info i posted was already posted (and better stated).

only the best baby :) its up to you what you consider to be the best, and in the words of sharp phil - dont keep an open mind, keep an active mind.
 
...what Evolute said! I have been collecting knives for 20+ years... no joke. Once I heard of Busse (only a year ago myself) I had to have one... once I used it, really used it, then I knew that no other knife be it custom or production would ever allow me the FREEDOM to believe I had a knife, or better yet 'tool' I could bet my life on. I will not let any of my blades sit in cold storage like a collector. IO love the knives and love the fact that I can really use them. I have put it to the test, not just talked about it. There have been blades I would have thought were the best and now that I have really punished them next to INFI, they are sitting in a box in my garage... INFI is the only steel I will use and can now recommend.

There is always second best, but I never recommend second best unless you simply can't afford a Busse. It is definitely worth the price. (saying that I wish they cost less and I could buy more of them!):eek: :D
 
I just like the nutbars that hang out around here, so I figured I needed at least one Busse so as to not be a wannabe. A dozen later and I'm an addict. They slice! They dice! They make your bed. Well okay, they don't make your bed, though I bet you could make a bed with one. Maybe even out of one if you had enough...

Anyways, what they said.

Cheers,
BJB :D

p.s. If a guy named Idahoskunk offers to store your Busse for you, don't do it!
 
Originally posted by BillyJoeBob
I just like the nutbars that hang out around here,

Ok, this is really the reason I stick around also.....I just didn't want to admit it ;):p

(BJB, this is definitely the best answer so far ;) )
 
Welcome! I agree 100% with what Evolute said!!I own a few Busse and am more than pleased with them.The people in the forum are helpful....if a little,how shall I say,different..but always willing to give a helpful nudge in the direction of Ohio..;)
 
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