BUSSE Safety Question....

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Time transport back to my 11th birthday. ....

We had moved to Wyoming from South Dakota the previous summer. It was the year for me to get "camping gear". We lived in the country and could camp anywhere we could walk to...so it was pretty cool to get stuff...like a mess kit....an angle head flashlight...and "jewel of all jewels"
...a genuine, "NORLUND" hatchet...which I still have! (Another long story).

It was about ten minutes from receiving that hatchet, to the time I was actually chopping with it. It was about 3 minutes later when I drew blood with it for the first time. (Every "wanna-be mountain man" knows..."Once it is blooded, it is broken in."...and then the serious work begins without worrying if you ding or scratch your new tool.)

Unfortunately, I chose fence posts to chop on. As a side bar: When chopping In Wyoming, always choose fence posts NOT supporting fences meant to keep cattle IN.

One thing I learned about hatchets and the blood letting. Never set the hatchet down. Somehow, the hatchet will mysteriously disappear, only to be found in the danged-est places...like Mom's shoe drawer? No chopping to be done in there?

OK. Now flash back to present day....and my question.

How long from the time you get the magic...."YOUR BLADE IS ON THE WAY" e-mail...until you have to decide whether you can stop the bleeding yourself, or if you should go directly to the ER?

Do you have your blood typed ahead of time or just wing it until you show up at the ER entrance with a leather belt tourniquet?

When you get the e-mail, how many of you go right to the store, park the shopping cart in front of the first-aid aisle and load up on gauze and stretchable dressings?

Or? -Do you by-pass the pharmacy department and go right to the sporting goods department for the QWIK-KLOT and bungee cords?

Maybe some of you are "do-it-yourselfers"...So...do you recommend duct tape or electrical tape for home made dressings?

Do you go for direct pressure until the bleeding slows, or do you prefer the SUPER GLUE approach?

Speaking of SUPER GLUE....should a guy go for the cheap stuff, close to the cash register or is this a time when shopping the name brands really makes a difference? Do you like the gel type glue that sets in a few minutes or the more runny stuff that BONDS SKIN INSTANTLY?

When the mail delivery person arrives....Do you have you first-aid kit open? Or is it too presumptuous to have everything laid out next to the wood pile?

Do you prefer having a first-aid book on hand or are you guys more high-tech using the lap top, which BTW cannot usually be hosed down.

Is it recommended to have a co-pilot standing by with car keys and garbage bags ready to throw over whichever extremity is gushing the most blood?

I know a guy who used cheap bath towels, that he could throw away in the hospital BIO-HAZARD containers.

Speaking of perishables, how many of you do your testing in haz-mat suits? There is a certain comfort in hosing things down after returning from the hospital.

After one particularly bad experience, with several oak beams from a really tough pallet....I am forced to ask....Has anybody actually duct taped themselves to a knife to prevent any, "LOOSE CANNON" ricochet action in the heat of testing a new blade? There is nothing like dodging a foot long piece of razor sharp steel with bare hands. Before this I was not sure but after I realized....BRUCE LEE I am not!

Any help would be appreciated.

The clock is ticking....

Shane
 
I pretty much go right from "OW!!!" to "That's what I'm talking about!"... Then it usually "Oh man, That might be kinda bad..." and then on to "Dang, I love that knife!" and "I think that will close on it's own. At least think it will..."

No knarly disfigured members yet so bring on the new releases
 
The hospital ER knows me by name. They have stitched and patched and set my broken bones for years now. I just walk or crawl or get dragged in depending on just how bad my latests adventure turned out and they say "Hi Dave, what did you do this time?" fortunately both of my daughters can drive and check me into the hospital.

Last few years, inch and a half cut through my upper lip into my gum, sprayed blood when I tried to talk, stitches. Cut 2 fingers on my right hand to the bone at the second joint, severed arteries and nerves, stitches and splints and therapy. Broken fingers, and toes, all the ribs on the back right side of my body. Broken pelvis in 2 places and broken back. Concussion and neck injury. Too many minor cuts and scrapes and road rashes to count.

I do recommend good gloves just to prevent minor injuries.

cricket
 
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Entertaining post! I like the gel type superglue, its easier to get the cut and not you other hand glued to your cut. I buy the dollar store 3/$1 kind. I also use a chopping lanyard to keep a good grasp on the knife.


I also try to avoid accidents and or cutting myself, but shit happens. Especially when you party naked
 
What kinda crap is this??? (;)) Dude...there's an easier way, brother...

Paramedics on standby with the trauma ambo in the driveway. Just call 'em up...when they arrive, give 'em some beer & a few stogies...and get choppin'! :D:D:D:D ...And remember... Chicks dig scars! :cool: :D:D ;)
 
That's a lot of questions to answer.

In short, when I get a knife that I know I'm going to use, I always end up cutting myself by accident (never cut myself on a safe queen :confused: )

So, since I know the inevitable, I kind of know what to have lying around, band aids, paper towels, decently clean cloths to wipe blood on, etc.

I have a thing of quick clot for really bad stuff. I was tempted once to use it when I sliced my leg open with a machete, decided not to. I'm kind of glad, after my accident the price of quick clot shot up a lot.

Cuts are going to happen. Facts of life. After a while, they become funny (cut myself 3 times on 2 of drbarne's knives, after it happened, I just look up and smile at him without saying anything, and he knows what happened :o )


As for going to the ER....I'm cheap and INFI and guns are expensive so unless I absotively don't have to go, I wont. After ganking my leg open with a machete, the wound was big so I decided to go. 10 external stitches and 3-4 internal stitches later I was kind of glad I went; the intern who stitched up my leg was kind of hot and I got a good stupidity scar out of it :D
 
LOL Tyrade!!!
My good friend Tony may or may not have helped me out with his first aid kit once!!!! ;) I was outta bandaids since I AM an avid knife user and drinker.
Usually when I cut myself I'm slightly intoxicated and it's never "THAT" bad when your drunk. Then the next morning the blood is still on the floor and the wife is complaining.
I have restocked the band-aids and Tony's lovely fiance Ms Tyrade83 got me some kick a$$ "Cars" band-aids.
I will also vouch that Tony's SAR 6 is light sabre sharp!!! :cool:
 
One week and one day have gone by since I cut my finger open with a .004" thick buzzsaw of doom on my dremel.
So I'm sitting there telling myself "you should have gloves on" every thirty seconds or so, and for the third or fourth time in the last ten minutes the saw binds and shoots off. I instantly go from thinking "you should be wearing gloves" to "I should have been wearing gloves, Ohhh this is going to hurt, stupid stupid stupid..."

The cut is three quarters of an inch long and about an eighth inch deep on the side a little ways behind my fingernail. I ran it under water for a few minutes and got some gauze and tape.
For the first 6 hours I try just wrapping it, and after reading the sixth or seventh article titled "when does a cut need stitches" I finally convince myself I don't need stitches, but it really is borderline and the opening shouldn't be that big. After giving the cut a more serious scrubbing (I hate scrubbing them, even when it's just my finger with some soap, I whine like puppy the whole time) I try to push some of the fatty tissue back in and use some thin strips of tape to close the gap a little without suffocating it. That seems to have done pretty well. From now on I'll keep a good supply of butterfly bandages though.

I'm pretty sure it hit a nerve since stretching out my hand gave a similar feeling to sticking your finger in a light-socket for the first few days. I can still feel almost all of my fingertip so it's not that big a deal really. Just yesterday I started bending my finger to a fully clenched fist again and it feels good now so I'm well on my way. This is probably my worst cut ever (sounds like I'm doing pretty good).

The most interesting thing I've learned is the name Lidocaine, which is the local anesthetic they use for cuts and stuff in hospitals. Man would I like to have a stash of that on hand.
 
Don't forget the cooler filled with ice water, a clean moist cloth and ziplock bags for any leftover "Parts".
 
If I only had a nickle for ever time I thought to myself... "dang... glad there is a bone in that finger to stop the blade..." :eek:


For me, these run-ins generally begin with beer and end with superglue... and more beer. Cheap superglue works just fine. I have great finger scars! Thanks Jerry!!!
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My last escapade required 30+ stitches on the outside and some nerve repair and an unknown quantity of stitches inside. Usually I keep the phone handy and let someone else deal; I was an EMT, ER Tech, and Medical Assistant and can vouch that those in the field make the worst patients, plus I usually jack up a spot that I can't get to or is to awkward to treat on my own; matching head wounds and a wrist :D;) Having had both, I will say that depending on the spot, staples can be a better choice, POP POP POP and you're done, no needles, no Lido, no stitching; hurts like a bastard but much quicker and easier...
Awesome post BTW!:D:thumbup::cool:
 
What kinda crap is this??? (;)) Dude...there's an easier way, brother...

Paramedics on standby with the trauma ambo in the driveway. Just call 'em up...when they arrive, give 'em some beer & a few stogies...and get choppin'! :D:D:D:D ...And remember... Chicks dig scars! :cool: :D:D ;)

LOL! Chicks dig scars.. weirdly true :)
 
It appears I came back to this thread about 6 posts too late!

It has sunk beyond the G rating to PG14.

There are three things that all men must teach there sons.

Pain hurts, Chics dig scars, and GLORY lasts forever!


Dang Cricket! Sounds like you have about used up your 9 lives!

JAXX, The EMT's here all have a good sense of humor and usually only charge IF they have to transport. That was a good idea to have them on stand-by.

M67....WOW! I thought I had the whole self-mutilation thing down. You take it to new heights.

Josh...I severed the nerves and tendons on my right hand's pinky and ring finger doing a cutting test. I slammed the tip of a COLD STEEL Magnum Tanto into some yellow pine. My hand slipped off the NON-SLIP KRATON handle and went over the guard and down onto the blade. It is a damn weird feeling when tendons pop! My hand has never been right since. I know what you are talking about.

Stump Buster...way good idea...can I keep my beer in the "SANITARY COOLER"?

Inquisitor Lord....I have seen staple kits on the market...but I DO NOT have the guts to do it myself...my wife the RN might though...especially if I have bounced a check recently....you know?

Thanks to everybody for their sense of humor in the face of bloodshed!

A lot of time when I wear gloves...and I can feel that OOPS! moment has just happened...I tape over the dang gloves and keep going....Shane's first rule of personal injury...#1.) If you didn't look at it...it did not happen.

I just realized....Having a set of rules for this sort of thing would make a great sticky?!?

Shane
 
I have given up on bandaids. I have stocked up on gauze and athletic tape. Bandaids just do not do it for stopping serious blood flow.

Garth
 
That was just the list from the last few years, I was rougher on my body when I was younger and healed quicker. Working with horses for 40 years or so will put some serious wear and tear on you.
 
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