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Busse vs TKD

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Well I have been thinking about taking up Tae kwon do for awhile and decided to bite the hog and do it. (5 yo is already a green belt). I have a SHe with sheath, see SH7 on this link

http://homepage.mac.com/zombiekiller/badmojo/sh.html

just got from epray yours for the same price $465 shipped CONUS, MO is fine or PP add 3%

SJT Mole jack Mint, no sheath, same payment deal, $385 Sorry no pics
 
Great excercise - but if you like deeper aspects and a more refined tech - I would stay away from the "buy a belt" schools and attend a more triditional Japanses school. TKD has lots of flying kicks and fancy moves etc.... but it is largly a "sport" karate as compaired to a Martial Art. Do you really think any 10 year old can really be a super-double-red -black belt - and have it mean anything?

Sorry for my interference - but if you are going to sell your INFI [ :eek: ] - you might as well get something great for it!! :D :D :D

Good luck with your sales of a couple of truly excellent knifes - at good prices. :) :thumbup:
 
OK so suggestions? No, I do not think my son or I will be the next best thing. It is a whole lot better than him sitting in front of a TV with a PS3 plugged into his head.

But really thanks for the good thoughts
 
I agree - any Karate is great excercise. And I have seen the American Sport Karate produce some great character. But I am biased towards the traditional Japanese styles. Check the yellow pages - or better yet - word of mouth.

Best wishes on everything! :)
 
Look into Pekiti Tirsia. It will go good with Busse. Just a thought. The exercise part is ridiculous. Do a little research. Try it you like it.
 
TKD is not a sport where I come from. It is a serious and lethal martial art, focusing a lot on kicks. Very dynamic. But I don't know what the scene is like in the US.

I'm not young and agile anymore so if it were up to me, I'd learn more street-oriented stuff like krav maga. I don't need to learn complicated offensive moves/fancy moves, just stuff that may save my life.
 
If you are interested in getting fit, doing a sport with prizes or learning an old discipline by all means do a martial art. If you are interested in self defense steer clear of 'martial arts'. The vast majority of so called 'martial arts' are very far from martial when examined closely. In any endeavour it makes sense to train for the things you will do, the train hard fight easy type motto of the SAS and so on. So if you are going to play tennis don't practice your swimming breast stroke and so on.

So looking at the training in 'martial arts' you see people stripping off and putting on pyjamas with their feet bared. Then they warm up and stretch (with old out of date streches and exercises that have no relation to advances in modern sports science for the most part although the sports MA's are a bit better here) in a brighly lit empty room with soft mats on the floor. The kata or forms are then worked on - for self defense purposes a time wasting endeavour if ever there was one as real fights don't follow a pre-arranged pattern. The 'techniques' are then practiced with each person knowing what is coming next, sometimes this is just a two person kata performed without the people being under stress or anything else resembling a 'real' situation that could be encountered in life. The actual techniques are out of date in most cases - think jumping kicks designed to knock someone off a horse as they are not laterally mobile. Do you really think someone will stand there without moving while another person jumps up in the air outside of Hollywood studios? Last is sparring - again based on the techniques covered in katas and usually with soft contact and rules and no weapons, concealed or otherwise. Then after doing all this for a period of time a payment is made to get a belt of a different colour to hold your pjyama jacket closed.

How much of this do you think prepares you for real life situations? Excuse me Mr. Mugger / Robber / Murderer - do you think you could wait a minute to I change into my pjyamas and warm up before you proceed? Also can we move to a different area as this area is dark and cluttered and has no mats. And when you do proceed would you mind not moving out of my way when I do a jumping kick and only attacking with attacks from my style please? And lastly would you mind not using any concealed or modern weapons as I am only used to training with weapons from a different century that are displayed from the beginning. I can easily imagine the result.

If you are interested in defense some groups to look at are Senshido (based in Montreal) Demi Barbito's JKD (based in LA), Geoff Thompson's self defense schools (based in the UK) and Peyton Quinn (based in Coloado), Hock Hockheim (Texas I think) and so on. All of these guys have good links pages and forums where you can learn more - have a look as there is a wealth of information out there. Also all of these guys have licensed instructors in various places but they are not as commonly known as the Karate, TKD, Aikido schools. The best quality is never the most famous or easiest to get - just think of that in the knife world as outside the knife buffs here how well known are Busses? And we all know how hard to get they can be. Anyway rant over. I hope this helps a bit on 'martial arts'. good luck on whatever you decide to do.
 
My reasons for doing what I am going to do are my own, please respect that. I appreciate the thoughts and advice but I started this thread to sell a couple of knives not to get your opinion. I believe these comments are best left for other forums like Practical/Tatical.

Would a Mod please delete this thread and I will repost without the surpurfulous information.
 
Sorry for misconstruing your post. You did ask for suggestions though so I was merely giving some informed comment (I have over 10 years experience of Martial Arts and Self Defense) and suggestions so you could make an informed choice. Your opinions are your own (and none of my business) and so are your choices which is why I specified different, respectable motives for doing Martial Arts at the beginning of my post. I only focused on the self defense aspects of martial arts as that's something most people don't know about, including martial artists as they are frequently blinded by hype. Again sorry if you took this the wrong way - I meant my post to be informative not offensive. You are right though - this is the wrong forum so I respect your right to ask for this thread to be deleted. All the best.
 
My reasons for doing what I am going to do are my own, please respect that. I appreciate the thoughts and advice but I started this thread to sell a couple of knives not to get your opinion. I believe these comments are best left for other forums like Practical/Tatical.

Would a Mod please delete this thread and I will repost without the surpurfulous information.

Reported your request for deletion. I thought we could delete our own posts, but don't find the button under the edit icon.

I hope they work soon.... rabbel9 has really stepped on it, again.

Best regards,

John
 
Reported your request for deletion. I thought we could delete our own posts, but don't find the button under the edit icon.

I hope they work soon.... rabbel9 has really stepped on it, again.

Best regards,

John

As I have no idea who you are or anything else about you combined with the fact that you have not taken part in this thread at all until now I find your comments strange, uncalled for and unhelpful. On the subject of help you might want to get some for your dyslexia as it's rabu9. But I also hope this gets taken down soon as Briggz has asked for as it's his call and off topic for sales.
 
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