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This knife went for no small chunk of change due to what I think was basically a pack of lies.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...BndQX3I%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I found the knife on page 22 of the Taylor Brands faux-Schrade Catalog.

The knife is even called the "Taylor Skinner". Another example of "buy the knife not the story".

Did Imperial Schrade ever make one like this? If so I've never seen one.
 
It is likely one of the new China made knives. the nice part of it is that whomever purchased this may be able to get their money back through paypal due to the seller giving a false description of the item.
 
I found the same knife on a site for 22.95, made in China by Taylor. It is listed as Schrade Old Timer White Bone Taylor Skinner Folding Push Dagger 3" Blade. Long title for a not so great knife. I didn't mention the site because I didn't know if it was in good form.
 
PHI SIG - It is OK to mention Ebay after the auction closes, but not good form to link to vendor sites, so you were correct.
 
i really liked the part about finding it in an old gun store in tn. nice touch.
like Codger always says read the knife!
and in looking at his profile he has a 99.7% rating. hmmmm makes one wonder.
 
If you get a chance, read the Q&A on the listing for a chuckle. "I was told" it was made in US. It came w. box but "not sure if I can find it."

The same knife can be had for just over $31 including shipping however 4 bidders are willing to pay more than that. Two of the 4 are willing to pay well over 100% more. Nice markup for the seller but continued misrepresentation as egregious as this one will catch up with an eBay seller. Note seller does not allow returns. Laughable. The buyer would be entitled to a full refund of purchase price plus shipping as item is "Significantly Not As Described." I would use the "12,207 defense strategy" to demonstrate "significant."

12,207... the number of miles between Ellenville, NY and Shanghai, China = Significant

However, without buying an identical knife (with box/papers that clearly shows an import) I'm not exactly sure how a buyer would prove to eBay/Paypal where the knife was manufactured.
 
...they generally come with a very light 'China' written almost in invisible ink on reverse tang that wipes off with a wet finger.....all sellers are provided for....not so the hapless buyers...<bet he has never had a seller complaint that the 'China' is not deeply etched enough as they wipe off>..:grumpy:
 
saw this one and thought it fit right in with this thread.
unless i am wrong this knife is not a staglon knife?
 

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saw this one and thought it fit right in with this thread.
unless i am wrong this knife is not a staglon knife?
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What is your thinking on that knife? Delrin instead of Staglon? Looks like it is a typical USA Schrade, made in Ellenville knife to me, regardless of what name they used for the handle material. I've always thought of "Staglon" as imitation stag for the Uncle Henry handles, but Schrade used it for Old Timers too in their marketing information.

I don't see where this example fits in as a Taylor made knife, but maybe I'm missing something. Was there an Ebay description that went with this example? :confused:
 
I just looked at the trademark for staglon (#72165925) which does not say what the material is but only that its used on pocket knives.
The trademark is still live and currently owned by Taylor as are most of the trademarks and patents filed by Schrade/Imperial at the time of the sale. Staglon was 1st trademarked by Schrade/Imperial and used in 1961.

The material is "Delrin" with Schrade additives, color etc. Delrin a trademarked material of DuPont but the word staglon could be any material used on the handles.
Schrade just to confuse us used both words in their marketing literature. There may have been a legal reason but I dont know that for sure.

I'll post the trademark info if anyone wants to read it.
 
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Thanks for that clarification Larry.

I was thumbing through the Taylor catalog you linked to, and man, they are sure making a lot of patterns. I did notice they use Staglon for for the Uncle Henry, and Delrin for the old traditional Saw Cut Delrin Old Timers. That seems to make more sense.
 
I feel bad for the bidders on that one. May just be me, but even a quick look at that one tells me that that knife is not "old". Read the knife. . .

Chuck
 
you see i didn't know that i thought staglon only referred to the material used on Uncle Henry's. this is how i learn i guess asking darn fool questions. lol. plus knew it was not taylor but i took the thread to be about incorrect info being used in the selling of the knives.

I've always thought of "Staglon" as imitation stag for the Uncle Henry handles, but Schrade used it for Old Timers too in their marketing information.

I don't see where this example fits in as a Taylor made knife, but maybe I'm missing something. Was there an Ebay description that went with this example? :confused:[/QUOTE]
 
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