Byrd and Spyderco?

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Hey ive been wanting to get a spyderco knife but ive been wondering, whats the difference between a spyderco and a byrd. I heard byrd is still made by spyderco but is like their shit line of knives? Now that im looking at byrd/spyderco knives..im kinda interested in the Byrd Cara Cara,
So yea, the above question is what i really want to know but i have a few other questions:

2. What decent byrd knives should i look into, im just looking for a decent edc knife

3. What does waving mean? Like waving a spyderco knife with a hole or waving any kind of knife?



THANKS!
 
The only difference is the Byrd knives are made in china.
I have a stainless Byrd Crossbill and a Stainless Police and the Byrd is just as well made if not better. Basically you are saving $ because china uses slaves to make stuff.
I really want a flight G10.
For EDC you probably want either the Flight (big) or the Meadowlark (small).

Spyderco Endura's and Delicias are great deals at 50$ as well.
 
Hey ive been wanting to get a spyderco knife but ive been wondering, whats the difference between a spyderco and a byrd. I heard byrd is still made by spyderco but is like their shit line of knives? Now that im looking at byrd/spyderco knives..im kinda interested in the Byrd Cara Cara,
So yea, the above question is what i really want to know but i have a few other questions:

2. What decent byrd knives should i look into, im just looking for a decent edc knife

3. What does waving mean? Like waving a spyderco knife with a hole or waving any kind of knife?



THANKS!

Tie a cable tie within the spydie hole & cut off the excess. Instant wave feature for any spydie

take care

aj
 
I would be extremely hesitant to rely on the zip tie wave for anything serious. The waved endura/delicas can be had cheap enough that you dont have to buy anything made in china.
 
all i can say is it works and i have it on my kbit.

Even if the Byrd series is made in China I don't care even a tiny bit, because it is from Spyderco a name which i fully trust.

take care
aj
 
The Byrd line is made in China, to the standards of Spyderco. I seem to recall Sal Glesser casually mentioning that they bought the factory in China that makes them to ensure their standards would be met.

The steel used in the Byrd knives is not as high end as what they use in the main line, but it is good stuff. In my limited experience it is at least as good as AUS-8. It has a lower chrome content than 440C, so it may not be as rust resistant, but I have not had any problems with corrosion.

Basically, it is an introductory line of good knives at great prices. The fit and finish may or may not be equal to the main line, but it will be at least as good as anything else at its price point.
 
Yournoob - based on my experience - certainly get "plain" stainless steel handle version as these seem to have better quality.

k Basically you are saving $ because china uses slaves to make stuff.
:eek:
Do you realize you are wrong? Please, have atleast a very basic economics course before posting comments like this.
 
I have a waved Endura and a Byrd Cara Cara. I guess in their respective lines they're comparable, same size, etc.

The Endura is my favorite knife I've ever owned. Just a great knife.

That being said, I got the Cara Cara for about half the price of the Endura and I could not be more pleased with it. I like the feel of the G10 handle more than the FRN on my Endura (I wish they'd make a G10 Endura) and the knife was nearly as sharp out of the box.

IMO, you can't go wrong with either line of knives.
 
Yournoob - based on my experience - certainly get "plain" stainless steel handle version as these seem to have better quality.



Agreed, the SS handle byrd seems to be better quality than other types.
 
The difference between a chinese worker and a slave is pure semantics. They are often kidnapped , not allowed to leave the premises ,not allowed to have anything to do with members of the opposite sex etc. I am sure the Byrd factory is better than most but a large
portion of chinese workers are slaves. You are better off being a refugee in Darfur than a Chinese mine worker. The free market economy sucks.
 
The difference between a chinese worker and a slave is pure semantics. They are often kidnapped , not allowed to leave the premises ,not allowed to have anything to do with members of the opposite sex etc. I am sure the Byrd factory is better than most but a large
portion of chinese workers are slaves. You are better off being a refugee in Darfur than a Chinese mine worker.


OK, now you're just making up shit.

China is embarrassingly capitalist in practice compared to places like USA, and it's people are increasingly prosperous. Because of good old fashioned hard work. Just gawk at the slaves in this multimedia presentation from the July/August 2007 Atlantic, or in the video clips presented in this really interesting blog documenting a Westerner getting consumer items manufactured in China. I could be proud of those slaves.
 
Hey ive been wanting to get a spyderco knife but ive been wondering, whats the difference between a spyderco and a byrd. I heard byrd is still made by spyderco but is like their shit line of knives? Now that im looking at byrd/spyderco knives..im kinda interested in the Byrd Cara Cara,
So yea, the above question is what i really want to know but i have a few other questions:

2. What decent byrd knives should i look into, im just looking for a decent edc knife

3. What does waving mean? Like waving a spyderco knife with a hole or waving any kind of knife?

I love my Spyderco's -- my Manix is the best knife I've ever owned. However, the Byrd knives are very good as well, and I think they're sort of an undiscovered treasure. I'm amazed that you can get a Byrd knife for less than $25 that has G10, and is very well made. The steel isn't fabulous -- it takes a great edge, but I've had it tarnish a bit on me. That being said, I have three of them, and plan to buy more for both myself, as well as family members.

I highly recommend the G10 over the FRN in these knives! I have a Cara-Cara that I saved a few bucks on by getting the FRN, and I really don't like it. The FRN is harsh and uncomfortable, and the knife is too light. My buddy has the same knife in G10, and it feels totally different -- very balanced and solid, and like a good tool should feel.

For size, you might consider the middle Byrd -- the Meadowlark. I have the Robin, and it's a great knife and fits my hand well, but it's a little small. I plan to buy several Meadowlarks as gifts at Christmastime (including one for myself).
 
OK, I've actually been to China and talked to people who have worked in factories there, so I can say without a doubt if you're comparing Chinese workers to refugees in Darfur, you must not understand the situation in Darfur because I don't see how anyone could think that mass killings/genocide is better than working long hours at the factory. Yeah, unscrupulous factory owners will often screw you over and a lot of people are very poor, but people aren't constantly trying to kill you.

On the other hand, trying to pretend that everything is rosy and perfect like in those multimedia presentations is unbelievable naive. Like most developing countries (India, Malaysia, lots of Latin American countries, Russia sort of, etc.), China's legal system is still very new and undergoing a lot of growing pains, and the government suffers from a high degree of corruption. It's not like the States where you can sue companies and take them to court or pass enforceable laws about working environments. So yeah, it's not always bad, especially when you work for a big multinational company who has the media watching it all the time, but a lot of how you're treated depends on who you're working for.

That being said, I have confidence in Spyderco and its commitment to running its operations in a humane and ethical manner. I have not handled the new Flight, but I have handled many of the others and like Mountainman I'm constantly amazed that more people don't appreciate them, and that they aren't mentioned in every "what cheap knife should I get" thread. They are super solidly built; the ones I have handled have had NO blade play whatsoever, which I think is kind of amazing.

Personally, I like the Cara Cara a lot. It is a bit bigger than the Meadowlark, but not huge, and shouldn't be a problem if you're a guy who wears pants with decent sized pockets, and there's something nice about having a knife that's big enough to handle most things you could throw at it. I say get it :)
 
The only Byrd I have is a 'FlatByrd'... and if this knife's quality is anything to go by, then I won't be buying ANYTHING from this company again...

Frank.
 
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