Byrd Cara Cara

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On my last order from New Graham, I decided WTH, and added on a Cara Cara from Byrd (Spyderco subsidiary, just in case someone didn't know) for around $18. I showed up in short order, as all NG orders do, and I jumped right into playing around with the Byrd (Which sounds kinda dirty, if read out of context). My first impression was one of weight, or heft. With a just under 4" blade, the thing is a chunk. It's also flat, and has a nice wide clip, so the weight isn't a pocket dragger despite being a solid chunk of steel in the hand. It came shaving sharp with a nice even hollow ground blade. As a friend and I messed around with it, we kept saying , "This is a heck of a knife for $20!". Later, he looked over and said, "That's not fair, this is just a heck of a knife!". Attention to detail is all over it, a recent add on to most Spydeco designs is a cut out near the base of most of their blades that matches up with the handle scales, allowing an extra finger cut out that lets you choke up on the knife for finer work. Also present in the Cara Cara. The clip is reversible, if you're one of those poor souls that favors tip up carry (You can ID them by all the scar tissue built up on their forefingers:)). Clip isn't reversible for ambi carry, but you can't have everything (where would you put it?). The Byrd hole is an elongated coma shape rather than the trademarked hole of the parent company. I don't notice any difference in fuctionality between the Cara Cara and other Spydies I have. The hole is good sized, with a nice positive index when you grab it. As much as I love my Calypso, thanks again G2, I think the Cara Cara is actually a more positive opener, better sizing on the hole, and the weight of the SS handles helps to really snap it open. BTW, the blade will 'pop' open quite nicely if that's your prefered opening method. The blade also has regular perpendicular grooves right behid the hole making for a nice grippy thumb ramp , the grooves (and the Byrd hole) are lightly chamfered (sp?) or smoothed down so they aren't sharp, as are the egdes of the scales. It a very comfortable knife in the hand. The lock back has a boye dent, another nice detail throw in along with the host of others already mentioned. The scales have not only a small lanayrd hole, but 4 little coma shaped cut outs on either side close to were the blade folds in to meet the handle. These cut just a little weight, but also serve to give you a bit of purchase when thumbing the blade open if for any reason your hands or the handle is wet or slippery. Top notch knife for a bargain basement price. I have no problem with 440c stainless in a folder, one of the first things I did with it was stab about a dozen holes into the bottom of a heavy plastic kiddie pool filled with sand and water that had lived out its usefullness. It was too heavy to dump out,so I got one side up and and went to town. Left a coupel light scratches the length of the blade, but it was still sharp afterwards, it'd shave hair with a little effort. A few passes on the sharpmaker and it was scary sharp again. Forget qualifications based on price, this is a heck of a knife!

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Are there any of these Byrds that are the same deminsions as the Spyderco Jester? ..

thanks for the review..

I have a micro rig on the way for my jester and wouldn't mind killing 2 birds with one stone so to speak and use the same rig for both knives..
~Jeff ..
 
Thanks for the review. I'm getting a Cara Cara soon (it's "in the mail"), and I always like to read what others think about the same knife, until I have mine in hand.

As a side question..Anybody know how the Byrd's version of 440C compares to Spyderco G2, in terms of rust resistance? I had a Police Model in G2, left on a boat for 3 years "for emergencies".. and w/out proper rust prevention in place.. it rusted shut.

It's now fixed by Spyderco Repair, and I also happen to have this Byrd coming my way.. so am wondering if the Byrd would fare better in the same "use".

Either way.. I plan on doing something to prevent rust, like keeping it in a sealed container, applying some rust preventative, etc.

Thanks.
 
Fishwatcher, if rusting seems to be a problem with the knife you keep in the boat, have you considered one of the salts by Spyderco? I personally have never used one, but they're supposed to be pretty much rust proof with their H1 steel. As far as the steel on the Cara goes, dunno how prone to rust it is. Although, even if it did rust, at $18, it wouldn't be a great loss.

Thanks for the review Yahmanin,

NIck
 
A Spyderco in H1, would definately be ideal. If and when I decide to spend more money on another knife, that'd be something to consider. Thanks.
 
Hi Yahmanin, thanx for the report and kind comments. Appreciate.

Hey Jefff, There are 2 small "Jester size" byrds in the works. The "Finch" in stainless and later in FRN and the "Starling" in FRN.

Hi Fishwatcher. If you're thinking about leaving it on a boat in salt water, I would not recommend the byrd. The SS will rust if constantly exposed to Chlorine (Salt water contains salt, salt is Sodium & chlorine, rust is primarily the result of the chlorine attacking the carbon).

For salt water application, I would recommend a "Salt" model.

sal
 
Good review. I reviewed the Meadowlark sometime ago and was very impressed with the knife given the price. The Byrd range are not 440c they are 8Cr13MoV which is similar to AUS8 - the first Byrds produced were marked 440c but Sal and co found after testing this was not the case appararently it was "Chinese 440C" which correctly is 8Cr13MoV which Spyderco said was heat-treated around 60-61hrc although Sal said they were doing more tests. I haven't heard of the results of those tests.
 
A co-worker of mine bought a Meadowlark just a week or so ago. We went to the mall for lunch and just "dropped in". They only had the demo left and I prefer to buy NIB, so I'm waiting for them to get more in. I had been talking to him about these and I guess I did a good job, 'cause he took the demo. I ended up with a Buck 887SBT Police Advocate (well, I had to buy "something" :D ). His only complaint was that it was a bit heavy, but other than that, he's loving it ;) ) He didnt' say too much about weight after I handed him my Buck :D Actually, his other complaint is that I'm a bad influence when it comes to knives - I showed him my Paramilitary just after I got it, and he keeps playing with it whenever I have it at the office as part of my EDC rotation. I usually keep one of my folders on my desk, usually, a larger one, and so he tends to drop by first thing (he had to go by my office to get to our test centre), just to see if I've acquired something new. I was actually surprised that some made it into Calgary this quickly - usually it takes a lot longer. This is great for me - I've been wanting to get a couple to play with, but not until I picked one up :)

- gord
 
So I'm impressed with the reviews of the Cara Cara, and I'm thinking I'll get one come beginning of the month. But I'm curious... anybody done the ziptie trick on one of these yet?

And another question, too- anybody managed to execute ziptie-waving from an in-waistband carry position?

Thanks,
Mike
 
I bought two Cara Cara knives imported to the UK from the USA. The 440c stamped one seems fine, but the one stamped 8Cr13MoV has rust pits already, on one side of the blade, near the top. It has only been in my pocket and has been dried after any moisture contact. After a good clean, the pits reappear within days. Faulty batch of steel? Can't be bothered to return it as the postage may cost more than the knife warrants, but disappointed. I've bought other Spyderco, CRKT etc and never had a rusting problem. :(
 
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