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C48 Wegner underrated?
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Deon,
is this the Tim Wegner that you got yesterday? I've also ordered one about 2 to 3 months ago for personal use, waited PATIENTLY for it to arrive, only to be told YESTERDAY by our mutual site of acquisition that it was taken by another customer
. Apparently it ARRIVED in the latest batch (at last!), and my order was "misplaced", so they erroneously did not reserve one!!!! I could even name the customer that took the piece, after our EMAIL yesterday...
I hope that you enjoy the knife. The one intended for me will hopefully arrive someday...
"Geniet dit, jy was meer gelukkig om dit te kry as wat jy ooit sal glo!!"
I've sent EMAIL to you. Look in you inbox...
is this the Tim Wegner that you got yesterday? I've also ordered one about 2 to 3 months ago for personal use, waited PATIENTLY for it to arrive, only to be told YESTERDAY by our mutual site of acquisition that it was taken by another customer
I hope that you enjoy the knife. The one intended for me will hopefully arrive someday...
"Geniet dit, jy was meer gelukkig om dit te kry as wat jy ooit sal glo!!"
I've sent EMAIL to you. Look in you inbox...
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I don't think that the Wegner is so much underrated as overlooked. On this forum, the Wegner received a number of votes for best folder, including votes from Military owners. With the Military being the most fanatically adored knife in existence
, this is high praise, indeed. I think it even garnered more votes than the revered AFCK.
I don't know why the C48 doesn't draw more attention, but I'd have to pin some of the blame on it's lack of high-tech whiz bang. There's not a lot to it that will draw attention away from the new, feature laden models out there. The C48 is a knife that needs to be held and used before it's considerable charm becomes evident.
The only problem I have with the Wegner is that with it's "use me" attitude, a steel like CPM-440V or even ATS-55 to hold an edge longer would be a pleasure. The edge geometry and grind are great, so it resharpens well, but the ATS-34 loses it's "bite" pretty quickly and needs touch ups frequently.
I don't know why the C48 doesn't draw more attention, but I'd have to pin some of the blame on it's lack of high-tech whiz bang. There's not a lot to it that will draw attention away from the new, feature laden models out there. The C48 is a knife that needs to be held and used before it's considerable charm becomes evident.
The only problem I have with the Wegner is that with it's "use me" attitude, a steel like CPM-440V or even ATS-55 to hold an edge longer would be a pleasure. The edge geometry and grind are great, so it resharpens well, but the ATS-34 loses it's "bite" pretty quickly and needs touch ups frequently.
I'm one of those who has sung the praises of the full size Wegner. It is a wonderful knife. I carried it yesterday despite the fact that I was also carrying the new BF Native in its sheath. I just couldn't bear to leave the Wegner at home. It is a using knife. Yes, I would love to see one in 440V as well. Then I would probably get a plain edge. My experience with the ATS 34 so far has been light dulling during use on the plain section but the serrated part still seems close to factory sharp without any sharpening at all. For this knife, I'm still happy with my decision to go partially serrated.
Double Edge Dave
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The Wegner is only underrated by those who have not used one.I agree that it might have been lost in a crowd with so many other entries into the field.In practical daily use,it`s performance is close to being in the league of custom folders.I love the balance,heft and solid lock-up on mine, which is also part-serrated.It has been interesting to see the price fluctuation in Tim wegner`s ads over the last 6 months or so.This indicates a fall and rise in demand as the word has gotten out.The only improvement would be to go to 440V steel
David
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David
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Hi guys
Thanks for all the kind words regarding the C48, it is much apprecated. In reply to the above posts I have a few things to touch on.
Sal Glesser and I have discussed the possibilities as far as enhancements go.
At this point VG10 would seem to be the logical replacment steel as it would enhance
cutting ability and not raise the price point
much. I must say though, I have been quite happy with ATS34 in the field to date, having field dressed, skinned, quartered, boned and caped out three large mule deer bucks this past season in Oregon and Montana. After which the edge could have done at least one more, without a touch up.
(I GOTS WITNESSES TOO!!!!!)
We are also supplying batches of logoed knives to the Alaska Dept.of Fish and Game, arguably the largest game department on the planet. They are using the C48 not only in the field , but are endorsing them in the game care clinics they put on statewide,with excellent results.
Another enhancement we have tossed around is possibly adding a rolling lock or some other new type of lock yet to be put on the market. There again I have seriously, and probably dangerosly abused the liner locks on these
knives without even a hint of failure.
I even got a compilment from Lynn Thompson of COLD STEEL , saying it was the strongest non CS liner lock they had tested to date.
The apparent price fluctuation has nothing to do with the demand , and everything to do with communication problems with the magizines we have advertised in. Intially I did drop the price in our ads as a response to several mail order and internet merchants who were selling them at way below the listed MSRP. We had thousands of dollars tied up in ads listing the full MSRP, and thousands more tied up in stock. Happily we have sold lots of knives (close to two thousand out of Blade-Tech alone). We are now trying to keep the pricing where it is supposed to be.
If every one plays fair it should'nt be to hard. Hopefully all the ads that were supposed to have been killed have finally made it to the round file.
Thanks again for the positive input, and kind words. If I can be of further assistance to any of you, you can email me at: wegnert@ixnetcom.com or check out our website at: www.blade-tech.com
Tim Wegner
Thanks for all the kind words regarding the C48, it is much apprecated. In reply to the above posts I have a few things to touch on.
Sal Glesser and I have discussed the possibilities as far as enhancements go.
At this point VG10 would seem to be the logical replacment steel as it would enhance
cutting ability and not raise the price point
much. I must say though, I have been quite happy with ATS34 in the field to date, having field dressed, skinned, quartered, boned and caped out three large mule deer bucks this past season in Oregon and Montana. After which the edge could have done at least one more, without a touch up.
(I GOTS WITNESSES TOO!!!!!)
We are also supplying batches of logoed knives to the Alaska Dept.of Fish and Game, arguably the largest game department on the planet. They are using the C48 not only in the field , but are endorsing them in the game care clinics they put on statewide,with excellent results.
Another enhancement we have tossed around is possibly adding a rolling lock or some other new type of lock yet to be put on the market. There again I have seriously, and probably dangerosly abused the liner locks on these
knives without even a hint of failure.
I even got a compilment from Lynn Thompson of COLD STEEL , saying it was the strongest non CS liner lock they had tested to date.
The apparent price fluctuation has nothing to do with the demand , and everything to do with communication problems with the magizines we have advertised in. Intially I did drop the price in our ads as a response to several mail order and internet merchants who were selling them at way below the listed MSRP. We had thousands of dollars tied up in ads listing the full MSRP, and thousands more tied up in stock. Happily we have sold lots of knives (close to two thousand out of Blade-Tech alone). We are now trying to keep the pricing where it is supposed to be.
If every one plays fair it should'nt be to hard. Hopefully all the ads that were supposed to have been killed have finally made it to the round file.
Thanks again for the positive input, and kind words. If I can be of further assistance to any of you, you can email me at: wegnert@ixnetcom.com or check out our website at: www.blade-tech.com
Tim Wegner
It is nice to see "the man himself" responding to posts about his design. I too feel that the C48 is one of the most ergonomic and functional designs on the market. Hands down, it is my personal favorite.
Despite that, the engineering side of my brain keeps comming up with "improvements" (please note the quotes) that, for my use, would make the knife even more "perfect". If they fit your design philosophy, I hope we can see them on future releases.
1) Eliminate the liner access cut-out on the non-liner G10 slab. I know this would make the knife harder to unlock with gloves on but it would also make it less likely to unlock in stressful situations or when choking up on the handle.
2) Tip down pocket clip, perhaps using a Military/Starmate style clip
3) Flat ground blade in VG10 or CPM440V
4) Machine screw assembly for occational deep cleaning.
I am curious if you see these as posible future changes or if anybody else thinks these would be a good idea. Either way, it's still a great design! Thanks.
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Despite that, the engineering side of my brain keeps comming up with "improvements" (please note the quotes) that, for my use, would make the knife even more "perfect". If they fit your design philosophy, I hope we can see them on future releases.
1) Eliminate the liner access cut-out on the non-liner G10 slab. I know this would make the knife harder to unlock with gloves on but it would also make it less likely to unlock in stressful situations or when choking up on the handle.
2) Tip down pocket clip, perhaps using a Military/Starmate style clip
3) Flat ground blade in VG10 or CPM440V
4) Machine screw assembly for occational deep cleaning.
I am curious if you see these as posible future changes or if anybody else thinks these would be a good idea. Either way, it's still a great design! Thanks.
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If you try, you may fail. If you don't try, you certainly will.
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Wow. I don't believe that I disagree with every one of the suggestions above!
I love the far side cut out. I'm having the same thing done to my Starmate.
I love the tip up carry. Spyder drops faster than any knife I've ever known. Got to be the extra heft from the spacer piece.
The hollow grind is incredibly pleasing on the C48, and the blade is thick enough to provide ample strength. A good part of the C48's appeal is the curves and their relation to each other. A steel upgrade would definitely, however, be nice.
Since the back spacer piece goes so deep into the handle, deep cleaning isn't a real problem with just a pipe cleaner. No, I can't get to the pivot assembly, but I don't want to!
I did come up with another suggestion, though. The thong hole should be lined, just to dot the "i"s, so to speak.
[This message has been edited by Brian_Turner (edited 06 August 1999).]
I love the far side cut out. I'm having the same thing done to my Starmate.
I love the tip up carry. Spyder drops faster than any knife I've ever known. Got to be the extra heft from the spacer piece.
The hollow grind is incredibly pleasing on the C48, and the blade is thick enough to provide ample strength. A good part of the C48's appeal is the curves and their relation to each other. A steel upgrade would definitely, however, be nice.
Since the back spacer piece goes so deep into the handle, deep cleaning isn't a real problem with just a pipe cleaner. No, I can't get to the pivot assembly, but I don't want to!
I did come up with another suggestion, though. The thong hole should be lined, just to dot the "i"s, so to speak.
[This message has been edited by Brian_Turner (edited 06 August 1999).]
