Cabone handles

[Vit_213]

In catalogs the 70s, I see handles material called "Cabone."
This is another name for derlin or another material?

 

[edbeau]

I found a link that answers your question and you were right. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/179445-What-is-Camillus-quot-Cabone-quot

 

[Vit_213]

Thank you, edbeau!
But I do not understand why in the catalog 1977 (http://www.collectors-of-camillus.us/Catalogs/1977-Catalog.pdf) on page 4:
No.10 - derlin handle
No.14 - cabone handle
No.17 - derlin handle
No.18 - cabone handle

What are their differences?

 

[sac troop]

Looks like the white finished scales are "Ivory Delrin" and that the various dark scales are being called "Carbone".

 

[edbeau]

Could the term "Carbone" be a name brand of a type of Delrin by another company. If you look up "Carbone" on the internet all you find are carbone rings that are sold by craft stores. Hope one of the Pro's from Camillus tell us the real story.

 

[Vit_213]

I purchased these knives on ebay. I think this is cabone.

Medium Jack (#14) & Premium Stock (#67)

Camp Knife (#99)

 

[Phil Gibbs]

Just a marketing ploy!

Cabone = Camillus Bone (Dyed Delrin).

 

[edbeau]

Thanks, Phil!!!!

 

[Vit_213]

Thank you, Phil!
Now I smile when I see the word "Genuine Cabone"

 

[thawk]

Schrade had Genuine Staglon® too... and Camillus had Brownstag®

 

[citytransplant]

Cabone vs. Brownstag? I'm confused. While I understand that these terms (for some type of plastic material) were marketing terms unique to Camillus knives, can anyone explain the difference between these 2 handle materials? Are the beautiful knives that Vit pictured above outfitted with Cabone or Brownstag handles? Thanks.

 

[deltaboy]

I got a #67 off EBay and the scales have shrunk almost 1/8 on both sides. Otherwise it in great shape.

 

[Phil Gibbs]

If the scales have shrunk it is not Delrin handles!
Likely older celluloid handles.

I got a #67 off EBay and the scales have shrunk almost 1/8 on both sides. Otherwise it in great shape.

 

[Codger_64]

Phil, as usual, is correct. A form of molded styrene was also used for a while as an early replacement for cell. It was almost as unstable and pyrotechnic.

 

[deltaboy]

If the scales have shrunk it is not Delrin handles!
Likely older celluloid handles.

Thanks

 

[jerryd6818]

You see Brownstag® in the catalogs starting in 1957 and last seen in the 1965 catalog. I have assumed Brownstag® was a synthetic that replaced that molded styrene Codger_64 mentioned that shrunk so badly (I call it Shrinky Dink after the childs toy from the '70s-'80s). It's been my assumption that Brownstag® was predecessor to Delrin® which Tom Williams told me Camillus started using in 1968-1969. The next catalog I have available to me is 1972 and you see Delrin® handles listed in there as "Indian Stag" and Cabone®. (different jigging)

 

[Codger_64]

Delrin came into use circa 1961 after the new Dupont plant was up and running at full capacity. You will definitely find Camillus knives using Delrin before 1968. Consider even the factor that Albert Baer bought the remaining stocks of Camillus in 1963 and had used Dupont Delrin in his Imperial/Schrade Walden/Ulster knives since it first became available in 1960/61.

 

[deltaboy]

If the scales have shrunk it is not Delrin handles!
Likely older celluloid handles.

Here it is.

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[sac troop]

I couldn't say if that's celluloid or styrene. Definitely suffers the same way my old Imperial Boy Scout knife does.

 

[deltaboy]

Thanks.