Calling for a Cold Steel Tanto blade Flipper

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knife dragon

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Hi folks,
nothing motivates a company like money. If you like the idea of what I'm proposing let Cold Steel know. They can make a fortune selling the type knife i propose. and the average working man could afford one too.

I am proposing a Cold Steel liner lock style Flipper.
Tanto style blade and point that they already know how to do well.

Steel = VG-1

WITH A BOLSTER AND NON BOLSTER OPTION,
YES, i GUESS TO MAKE IT MORE PROFITABLE YOU'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE ANOTHER BLADE SHAPE, what ever you folks choose is up to you imho i want that tanto lol.

Let me not forget, the flipper should run on a caged bearing system. TALK ABOUT SOME COLD STEEL BAD ASSERY :eek:
 
That's not a bad idea. Not only do they know tantos, they also have one of the toughest liner lock designs out their (only used currently on the Ti-Lites, but was used on many of their knives in the past). I'd totally buy a CS flipper tanto with their L-shaped liner lock and caged pivot bearings. :thumbup::cool:
 
Yes, this would be great.

I wish that they would bring back the NightForce folder from a few years ago, but add a flipper to it.

I am surprised that they haven't ever done a thumb-plate Tanto folder either.
 
The Triad Lock is here to say and beats liner locks any day, plus flipper is, IMHO, just another protrusion that doesn't need to be there. I have no problems opening any od the CS knives just as they are.
 
GCG199 said:
I wish that they would bring back the NightForce folder from a few years ago, but add a flipper to it.
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That's sort of what I was picturing in my mind. They could do a clip, spear, and tanto version. :thumbup:
 
dear Mike Sastre ,

This thread is for folks who want an awesome Flipper made by Cold Steel. Sir, your welcome to your opinions. No one ever said you had to agree, just don't post here if you don't please. You can start your own thread that tells everyone what you like and are satisfied with.

This thread is only for those who want to make something happen dude. thx. for understanding/please don't be a hater lol!
 
G. Scott H. said:
That's sort of what I was picturing in my mind. They could do a clip, spear, and tanto version. :thumbup:
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I vote, yes, yes, and yes, :thumbup:

a wee hawk style tanto, maybe! hmm Can we get that in a flat grind PRETTY PLEASE !

Make a fast flipper, I don't care what type of lock. I'm just tired of frame locks aesthetically, titanium on steel, and even when a steel insert is used and an over travel stop is in place I still don't find the frame locks that attractive. I feel like I'm getting cheated in a way. Sorta the same way I feel about a chisel grind. I want the other SIDE/part of my blade lol.
 
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knife dragon said:
dear Mike Sastre ,

This thread is for folks who want an awesome Flipper made by Cold Steel. Sir, your welcome to your opinions. No one ever said you had to agree, just don't post here if you don't please. You can start your own thread that tells everyone what you like and are satisfied with.

This thread is only for those who want to make something happen dude. thx. for understanding/please don't be a hater lol!
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Sorry, no, that is NOT how forums work. Forums are for discussion, not blind agreement. You only want posts from people you agree with, you should not be posting on a public forum, PERIOD.
 
DShiflet said:
Sorry, no, that is NOT how forums work. Forums are for discussion, not blind agreement. You only want posts from people you agree with, you should not be posting on a public forum, PERIOD.
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Well said!!
 
DShiflet said:
Sorry, no, that is NOT how forums work. Forums are for discussion, not blind agreement. You only want posts from people you agree with, you should not be posting on a public forum, PERIOD.
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No, you're as wrong as you could possibly be, I know how forums work .
This is not a question/discussion thread. This is a thread that is meant to Lobby a manufacturer.

sure he /or anyone can say what they want anywhere they want, but just because they have the right to do something does not make it right to do! does that sound familiar to you sir? Can you understand that? Sure you can because you didn't just get off the boat nor did I.

This is about trying to gain/attain something that does not exist.

EXAMPLE: WE THE PEOPLE WANT A NEW GADGET BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S COOL. OUR GADGET DOESN'T HURT ANYONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BUY/USE ONE.

With that said if what we wanted hurts/offends this man or anyone else in a normal/feasible way then I would expect a dissenting comment. I myself would like do the same. Yet that isn't the case at all. He did not add anything positive to the discussion at all. He made a useless negative comment that didn't even benefit him in anyway. Yet, it was needlessly mentioned, and with what purpose? That could be considered trolling online, go ahead look it up.

Thx. folks your points though noted, just don't really fly well in this case imho. Now can we move on please.
 
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knife dragon said:
No, you're as wrong as you could possibly be, I know how forums work .
This is not a question/discussion thread. This is a thread that is meant to Lobby a manufacturer.
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Every single post on these forums is a discussion thread, that is, again, why they exist, if you "know how forums work", you wouldn't be arguing that. If you want to lobby a manufacturer and don't want people to disagree with you, do it via email, set up an online petition, don't post it on an open DISCUSSION forum if you aren't willing to accept discussion from those who disagree with your idea.

"OUR GADGET DOESN'T HURT ANYONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BUY/USE ONE. "

Time and money spent developing and testing one thing will lead to something else, possibly better, not getting developed and tested. Personally, I have no interest in a liner lock tanto flipper either, and if I did, well, like Charlie Mike said, Kershaw has plenty of options. I'd rather Cold Steel spend their time and effort making something cool I can't get somewhere else.
 
DShiflet said:
Every single post on these forums is a discussion thread, that is, again, why they exist, if you "know how forums work", you wouldn't be arguing that. If you want to lobby a manufacturer and don't want people to disagree with you, do it via email, set up an online petition, don't post it on an open DISCUSSION forum if you aren't willing to accept discussion from those who disagree with your idea.

"OUR GADGET DOESN'T HURT ANYONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BUY/USE ONE. "

Time and money spent developing and testing one thing will lead to something else, possibly better, not getting developed and tested. Personally, I have no interest in a liner lock tanto flipper either, and if I did, well, like Charlie Mike said, Kershaw has plenty of options. I'd rather Cold Steel spend their time and effort making something cool I can't get somewhere else.
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You're right to a point, but also are making an issue over something that isn't germain to the OP in essence. You of course know this so because you can you posted this rehash post of a post already here. Troll can't be avoided online i get that, and you prove that too.

" I'd rather Cold Steel spend their time and effort making something cool I can't get somewhere else. "
So, the above comment i have no issues with except for the fact that nobody cares about it. Did you come up with an idea for Cold Steel to fulfill your wishes . No, of course not you just rather derail this thread. so be it, i'll not be dreaming about this when i sleep lol.

So far as the Kershaw comment is concerned. It's mute because I obviously know about kershaw like most do. i WANT SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT THEY PUT OUT, TO INCLUDE BETTER STEEL, QUALITY, & DIFFERENT DESIGN TOO. Somehow that too will be ignored by you I'm sure. based on previous posts.

If you or anyone else doesn't like something that's is fine. Yet, to try to stop something that doesn't hurt you in anyway just because you don't fancy the idea is plain ludicrous. No amount of rationalization is ever going to change that. :D

oops the caps Ninja snuck in. lol
 
knife dragon said:
" I'd rather Cold Steel spend their time and effort making something cool I can't get somewhere else. "
So, the above comment i have no issues with except for the fact that nobody cares about it. Did you come up with an idea for Cold Steel to fulfill your wishes . No, of course not you just rather derail this thread. so be it, i'll not be dreaming about this when i sleep lol.

So far as the Kershaw comment is concerned. It's mute because I obviously know about kershaw like most do. i WANT SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT THEY PUT OUT, TO INCLUDE BETTER STEEL, QUALITY, & DIFFERENT DESIGN TOO. Somehow that too will be ignored by you I'm sure. based on previous posts.

If you or anyone else doesn't like something that's is fine. Yet, to try to stop something that doesn't hurt you in anyway just because you don't fancy the idea is plain ludicrous. No amount of rationalization is ever going to change that. :D

oops the caps Ninja snuck in. lol
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The thread, despite your objections, is for discussion. You ask why would it hurt for Cold Steel to put out a tanto flipper, I gave you a reason-because tons of companies put out tanto flippers, and if Cold Steel puts time and money into that, it's them NOT putting time and money into something else which you can not get somewhere else. So again, quit using the WRONG argument of " to try to stop something that doesn't hurt you in anyway just because you don't fancy the idea is plain ludicrous. No amount of rationalization is ever going to change that.", FACTS do change that, like the fact presented above. For every knife Cold Steel puts out, another knife won't be made, this is how development works, for every company. They have limited production space, so if CS is making a tanto flipper, that's something else that won't be made. Since there's already tons of tanto flippers out there, I'd rather them devote that production time, space, and resources to something different.

Ift you want something better than what Kershaw puts out, with better steel and quality, you...might be looking in the wrong place. Cold Steel doesn't use better steel than Kershaw, and the quality is comparable as is. Cold Steel has the triad lock, but that's the only thing they have quality wise that Kershaw doesn't.

Last of all, learn what troll means. It doesn't mean someone who disagrees with you, it doesn't mean someone who discusses a post on a discussion board(even if you don't want the post discussed, that's the whole friggin point of a board, maybe eventually you'll grasp that).
 
Flippers, eh, uncomfortable if large and ineffective if small. No thanks, I also second the notion CS doesn't need to make any more of the liner locks like they used to. Although there was nothing wrong with the design, they don't inspire confidence like the Triad lock. I'll pass.
 
+1 with sticking with Triad lock. However i do like to see CS coming out with more deployment options, i.e thumbhole(aka spydiehole) or wave. I believe Thumbhole should be easy to implement with Triad lock, and it is even less labor intensive and simpler than thumb-stud. The only way i can imagine making a flipper with Triad lock is to make the lockbar thick enough so that you can make a hole in the middle for the flipper to pass through.
 
DShiflet
you're right to a point, (pun intended) based on your reasoning in ur last post.

Yet, you're wrong in the subtle, but important aspect of not making what you don't want in a thread that is opposite of your views a huge plus.
It's like me saying i want schwinn to put out a bike that is basically the same as other makes models. only thing is i want schwinn to do it because they do things differently/uniquely enough so that i want to buy it. where as what other bike makers have made i do not like for my own reasons.

it was never about you not agreeing with me. i will make my own arguments thank you very much and u can't put words in my mouth when you misunderstand my intent or written words. Now, if you can grasp that then we are on the same edge, and all is well. :D

I would also add this bit of commentary if you still don't get the point. ( pun intended as usual lol)

i just bought another flipper omg, and darned if it didn't have a tanto style blade, and i bought another tanto style flipper from another maker not long before this on lol. Yet, both of those knives are quite unique To include their Tanto blade shapes, flipping action, and overall feel etc.. etc. . hint , hint, hint. in between those two tanto flippers i bought yet another flipper. they had a tanto version which i wanted, but the blade profile sucked real bad so i opted for the drop point style profiled blade. if they made a better tanto blade profile i would have 3 tanto flippers right now.

Based on your rational i shouldn't want colds steel to make what i want because you feel it will take away from what you might want. yet, what that is you don't even know specifically as long as it meets your unique criteria above. so playing devils advocate with your ideas/theory above is your right. Yet, you ignore my desires that seem to mimic yours closely. at least i actually have the balls to be specific about wanting a company like cold steel to make what I, and many others would buy. last i checked coldsteel likes loot $$. as we all know cash rules everything around the production knife business. We can agree on that I'm sure :thumbup:
 
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Personally the thing I love the most about cold steel folders, along with the overall designs, is the triad lock. Its just so damn snappy and strong. While a flipper would be nice its not really the direction I would prefer for cold steel to go. Personally I love the thumb hole as an opening mechanism and if cold steel added that to some of their knives that would make me very happy. Especially for the code 4.

Anyways, for the points made above about what the thread is for, cold steel as a company need reliable info on what would sell before making a new product. If only those who want to see something made are allowed to voice their opinion then that is a very selective group of opinions. If then it turns out the majority would not like a liner lock flipper cold steel would end up losing a lot of money. Now thats quite extreme of course, and I have no doubt it would sell, but it is still important to have open discussions.
 
I'm pretty sure the CS marketing guys have ways of figuring out what would sell, based on observations of their own as well as other companies' product histories, such that there is no danger of them making a lame non-selling design based on posts in this forum. So the idea that one person who expresses enthusiasm for a design needs to be shouted down by others, for fear that CS might abandon a great hypothetical design in order to produce the design suggested by the forumite, is pretty silly.
 
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