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Caly 3 Dilema

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I just bought a new Caly 3 CF off of Amazon and I questioned if it was even real for a bit. The bag wasn't sealed and the action was gritty. I noticed right away that it had side to side play. I was fairly upset but then after I adjusted the pivot, it is now on par with my Caly 3.5 which is probably my favorite knife.

I'm not sure if I should put loctite on the pivot to make sure it stays tuned to where I want it or should I leave it alone so I can remove my pivot to add lubricant? Thanks for any help.
 
Just out of curiosity, how is it that so many of you get these Spydercos with all this supposed blade play? All the ones I've ever handled has been fine as far as blade tightness is concerned but yet I read ever day where someone bought a real one new where it had blade play. Is it perhaps an inquiry into QC that you hope to find an answer or are you all just gripping and ripping hoping to blame someone else?
 
Just out of curiosity, how is it that so many of you get these Spydercos with all this supposed blade play? All the ones I've ever handled has been fine as far as blade tightness is concerned but yet I read ever day where someone bought a real one new where it had blade play. Is it perhaps an inquiry into QC that you hope to find an answer or are you all just gripping and ripping hoping to blame someone else?

I've never had a Glock kaboom on me either but it has happened to other people. The pivot was a little loose and I fixed it. Why are you even bringing up quality control?
 
If the bag wasn't sealed, I'd assume it was a return, that could explain the gritty/blade play issue. I'd say keep an eye on the pivot and see if it comes loose, if not you're good to go. I think it will be fine without adding any Loctite.
 
I've never had a Glock kaboom on me either but it has happened to other people. The pivot was a little loose and I fixed it. Why are you even bringing up quality control?

I dunno, I was on a rant for some reason. Typically a post about blade play insinuates there was a lack of quality control at some point. Really I'm just tired of reading about bad experience is all. Nothing about you personally, I'm glad you were able to fix it. I think I just get a little mifted when people (not you specifically) buy stuff that's not up to standards then post about it. Maybe I need to go back into the gumdrop forest and sniff unicorn farts for a while......who can tell at this point.:D
 
adamg01,

Putting loctite on the pivot shouldn't keep you from removing or adjusting the screw later as long as you use the proper kind. Low strength purple is probably the best, but blue works fine if used sparingly.

BTW I have at least three Calys that came from the factory with a rough or gritty feeling pivot. My Kiwi4, that I believe comes from the same factory, also came feeling a little gritty. All of them are now very smooth after a good cleaning and lube job. I've used both purple and blue loctite on pivot screws and haven't had any problems.
 
If the bag wasn't sealed, I'd assume it was a return, that could explain the gritty/blade play issue. I'd say keep an eye on the pivot and see if it comes loose, if not you're good to go. I think it will be fine without adding any Loctite.

I was afraid it was a return and I hope they haven't started making fake Caly 3 CF's. I do like it but my first impression was a little tainted by the unsealed bag, and grittiness. I'll do as you suggested and see if it moves. I like being able to take the pivot screw out and put a drop of oil in it.
 
Yet another "subpar Spyderco via Amazon" experience. We should just sticky a thread to keep them all in the same place.

Sorry for the bad luck, but good on you for fixing it to your satisfaction. To your question, I would loctite the screw. Depending on the location of manufacture, the little baggie might just be folded over and not sealed.
 
I've got three Calys, two 3s in G10/VG10 and 1 Caly3.5 also in G10/VG10 and all came with a slight gritty feel, as did my CF Chaparral. I believe it's a pretty common occurrance. None came with any blade play though my first Chaparral had a very slight bend to one side which was noticeable when the blade was deployed so I exchanged it for a good one. As for the grittiness, a few applications of Tuf-Glide and my most used Caly 3 has no grit left.
 
Just out of curiosity, how is it that so many of you get these Spydercos with all this supposed blade play? All the ones I've ever handled has been fine as far as blade tightness is concerned but yet I read ever day where someone bought a real one new where it had blade play. Is it perhaps an inquiry into QC that you hope to find an answer or are you all just gripping and ripping hoping to blame someone else?

I don't know, good question. But I can tell you from recent experience with Spyderco, ZT, Benchmade, and Boker Solingen - there is plenty of subpar inventory bouncing around out there, right alongside the good stuff. I think it's hardly fair to point a finger at the unsuspecting buyer as if it's their fault that they were sold what amounts to factory seconds that are not marked as such.

Some appear to feel that the makers are beyond reproach, and that the customers should all get in line like good little lemmings and take what's given to them without fussing about the sometimes cavernous differences in quality from sample to sample. I've sent back not one, but two Caly 3.5CF samples - one for blade play that could not be adjusted out without making it difficult to open the knife one-handed, and the other for a blade that had grinding marks on the side, parallel to the spine, and CF scales that looked like they had been skipped across asphalt. And don't get me started on ZT. They are really on my sh*t list right now. So yeah, this stuff is definitely out there.

That said, most of my twenty-odd Spydercos have arrived in tip-top shape. From my seat, they seem to do better in the QC department than some of their closest competitors, certain runs of certain models notwithstanding.

To the OP's question: use some blue loctite (#242) on the pivot screw - that will keep it from moving on you but still allow you to remove it with ease if/when needed.
 
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My Caly3 is tight, no blade play, and smooooottthhh. I would return your if it is gritty and has blade play. I do not doubt some people have some grit in their Calys but I have never seen it on the ZDP-189 versions. I simply love this knife. I do not carry it as often as I used to as it is expensive. It is one of my favorite knives, however.
 
There are most definitely fake Caly3 knives out there for sale. You say you bought if "off Amazon." Was the actual seller Amazon, or was the seller another vendor with fulfillment by Amazon?

I just bought a new Caly 3 CF off of Amazon and I questioned if it was even real for a bit. The bag wasn't sealed and the action was gritty. I noticed right away that it had side to side play. I was fairly upset but then after I adjusted the pivot, it is now on par with my Caly 3.5 which is probably my favorite knife.

I'm not sure if I should put loctite on the pivot to make sure it stays tuned to where I want it or should I leave it alone so I can remove my pivot to add lubricant? Thanks for any help.
 
Would Spyderco put some form of loctite on the pivot? It had traces of it around the thread.

And yes this was Amazon who I bought it from and not someone under their umbrella.
 
Would Spyderco put some form of loctite on the pivot? It had traces of it around the thread.

And yes this was Amazon who I bought it from and not someone under their umbrella.

My new Kiwi had some form of white thread locker on the pivot screw, but the screw was very easy to remove. I don't think the thread locker was really doing anything. My knife came in a small plastic bag that was open on one end. I'm pretty sure that is the way the knife came from the factory. Just because the bag is open, doesn't mean it was a return.
 
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My new Kiwi had some form of white thread locker on the pivot screw, but the screw was very easy to remove. I don't think the thread locker was really doing anything. My knife came in a small plastic bag that was open on one end. I'm pretty sure that is way the knife came from the factory. Just because the bag is open, doesn't mean it was a return.

I realize now that an unsealed bag doesn't necessarily mean it was a return. It seemed like all of my other Spyderco's were sealed unless I am mistaken. Either way, this brings me to my next dilemma which is more of a "moral dilemma".

I was going to let it go but I was a little miffed by the condition I received the knife in. I had heard many stories of Amazon sending returns out as new knives so the unsealed bag (my first Spyderco with an unsealed bag unless I am mistaken), the loose pivot, and the gritty action had me believing I got one. I sent Amazon an email before I went to bed last night describing the problem and my disappointment in receiving a $130 "used" knife that was listed as new after all of the business I have given them.

Let's just say that I will never doubt Amazon's CS again.
 
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I'm glad to hear that Amazon CS is up to par. I buy from them often, but haven't had any problems so I don't have any experience with their CS. It doesn't sound like you intentionally tried to get a free knife, but I am like you and would probably feel guilty as heck if I kept both. I'd wait for the second knife to arrive and see if it is a better specimen. If so call CS back and explain the situation. Ask them if they still want you to keep the first knife or if you should send it back.
 
I'm glad to hear that Amazon CS is up to par. I buy from them often, but haven't had any problems so I don't have any experience with their CS. It doesn't sound like you intentionally tried to get a free knife, but I am like you and would probably feel guilty as heck if I kept both. I'd wait for the second knife to arrive and see if it is a better specimen. If so call CS back and explain the situation. Ask them if they still want you to keep the first knife or if you should send it back.

This is probably what I will do. The thing is that I just vented a little to them about paying that kind of money for a return. I honestly was content with the knife after I cleaned it up and adjusted the pivot. I probably wasn't even going to exchange it if they offered, I just wanted to let them know my disappointment. I woke up this morning and saw the email and almost fell out of the bed.

One thing is for sure, I won't hesitate to buy from Amazon again.
 
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