Caly 3 question

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So i am interested in getting a caly 3 carbon fiber version, and i will probably order it tonight if convinced. The only concern i have as i am researching this option is its deployment. It appears that is has no bushings and can't be flicked out. IF this is the case i may turn to the sage one. Can someone help me here and clarify the deployment speed?
 
I'm pretty sure it has phosphorus bronze bushings, they're just really thin. In my experience lock backs, like the Caly 3, Delica, ect. have alot of friction in the lock area as it's being opened. Just part of the design due to the lock bar being under spring tension, same with slip joints. I think that's why people use the Spydie Drop opening method.

IMO the ergos of the Caly 3 is better than the Sage.

I've never been able to flick any thumb hole blades though. I prefer studs. But that's because I have messed up thumbs.
 
Thanx for replying with alacrity guys, its good to know that it can be done. I just need to decide how important that extra speed and/or size of the Sage is. I work in a department store doing merchandising support and find a use for a knife everyday, somedays many uses (like when in the stock room opening boxes). Also i have to wear slacks, so something friendly and deep riding is a necessary. Decisions decisions.
 
Heard around that the CF on the Caly isn't as good (grippy) as that on the Sage.

The Sage CF (I'm assuming here that Bradley CF is the same) is really great. Plus it's cheaper.
 
Two other things to consider are S30V vs ZDP and blade shape. Decisions decisions, either way they are both great knives.
 
I personally like the Caly 3 better than the Sage. The Caly 3 does not have washers but it is built to such high tolerances it does not need them. A knife doesn't need washers to be able to flick it. The back lock does produce more resistance to opening from the spring pressure of the lock bar riding on the blade tang. But I can still easily flick the knife. One of the main reasons I like it better than the Sage is because of the cutout on the Sage for access to the liner/frame lock. My index finger falls there and just doesn't feel right in my hand. I also like the ZDP quite a bit more than S30V. The wire clip of the Caly 3 is great and should ride deep in slacks and the smooth CF should be easy on the pants and easily slides in and out.

The knife fits in hand great and I don't have any problem with the CF being smooth and it gives it that great CF look. But I also don't need jimping and a ton of 'texturing' to cut with a knife. I can hold on to a knife just fine without all of that.
 
right on, im gonna go with the caly, i just think its better suited for this use. If i still want the sage at the end of a month ill pick it up to. i found them both pretty cheap on ebay. the ZDP really interests me and im confident if i touch it up frequently it wont be hard to sharpen, and if it is ill go to the knife sharpener down the street. hopefully i can get the knife here (FL) quickly lol.
 
The caly doesn't have washers. However, I think you'll find it to be one of the smoothest lock back knives you've ever had the pleasure of opening.
 
FlaMtnBkr & THG are both correct. I've carried both Caly 3 models for a couple of years now and have sent one to AK with a mate. They are outstanding in F&F as well as function.

You won't miss the washers. In fact, you may get to like folders without washers when they're made as well as the Caly 3. I used a G10 Caly 3 for a year or so and then took the blade out to clean everything. All I found in the pivot area was a little left over CRK grease that I had put in there the year before. No dirt, pocket lint, or anything else. And that's after a year of pocket carry in the warehouse, the woods, and most other places I go in a year.

I've also found that I don't have a problem with the slick finish on the CF Caly 3's handle. Everything else fits so well that I can get a good grip on it without rough scales.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
I personally like the Caly 3 better than the Sage. The Caly 3 does not have washers but it is built to such high tolerances it does not need them. A knife doesn't need washers to be able to flick it. The back lock does produce more resistance to opening from the spring pressure of the lock bar riding on the blade tang. But I can still easily flick the knife. One of the main reasons I like it better than the Sage is because of the cutout on the Sage for access to the liner/frame lock. My index finger falls there and just doesn't feel right in my hand. I also like the ZDP quite a bit more than S30V. The wire clip of the Caly 3 is great and should ride deep in slacks and the smooth CF should be easy on the pants and easily slides in and out.

The knife fits in hand great and I don't have any problem with the CF being smooth and it gives it that great CF look. But I also don't need jimping and a ton of 'texturing' to cut with a knife. I can hold on to a knife just fine without all of that.
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THG said:
The caly doesn't have washers. However, I think you'll find it to be one of the smoothest lock back knives you've ever had the pleasure of opening.
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dalefuller said:
FlaMtnBkr & THG are both correct. I've carried both Caly 3 models for a couple of years now and have sent one to AK with a mate. They are outstanding in F&F as well as function.

You won't miss the washers. In fact, you may get to like folders without washers when they're made as well as the Caly 3. I used a G10 Caly 3 for a year or so and then took the blade out to clean everything. All I found in the pivot area was a little left over CRK grease that I had put in there the year before. No dirt, pocket lint, or anything else. And that's after a year of pocket carry in the warehouse, the woods, and most other places I go in a year.

I've also found that I don't have a problem with the slick finish on the CF Caly 3's handle. Everything else fits so well that I can get a good grip on it without rough scales.
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This sums it up perfectly. The Caly 3 is just an awesome little blade.
 
atony said:
This sums it up perfectly. The Caly 3 is just an awesome little blade.
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Yep, I agree with the three post above as well.



BTW, why fick, when you can open a knife just as fast with only thumb movement and zero wrist movement. May take a little practice, but a piece of cake once you get the hang of it.
 
There are no washers in the caly3 zdp. When i disassembled mine to clean it, i was suprised to find none. I can flick mine out no problem. When i got it i degreased it, disassembled it and cleaned out everything around the blade, then oiled it and it was smooth as butter. You won't regret it if you buy it, i got mine for a little over 100$.
 
Awesome guys, thanx for all the responses. I went ahead and ordered the caly 3 and im crawling with anticipation waiting for it to get here. now im looking into the maintenance of the zdp and am possibly going to order some stropping gear for frequent maintenance. Also i plan on removing the blade to clean and put my own lube around the pivot area when i get it, i know some of you may not think thats necessary but its just something i like to do for my own piece of mind. Do any of you have any suggestions in that regard? should i zip tie the lock open before i start? ive never done it on a lock back before.
 
You can zip tie it open but it isn't needed. You just will have to press the lock in when you slide the blade into place. But with no washers to align it should be pretty easy to get back together.

ZDP has lots of carbides which give it great edge retention. So if you plan on stropping I suggest you get some diamond spray as some of the more common compounds are actually softer than the carbides and don't do much. I actually made most of my knives more dull when trying to use green chromium oxide. When I got diamond spray it made a world of difference and made one of the biggest jumps in sharpness I have observed yet with the equipment I have bought. If you strop a blade that can shave arm hair it will take it to the next level. Tree topping hairs and whittling off little pieces is pretty easy after stropping with 1 micron diamond spray for a minute or two. If the knife isn't at least shaving sharp, stropping doesn't do much and you need to sharpen with something else first. However, if you just strop on the days you use the knife then you can go a long time before you need to sharpen it.
 
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