Camillus at war!

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I posted this in the BRL forum and thought there may also be some interest here in the subject, a rare fighting knife Camillus produced in 1942 for the U.S.M.C. I don't think Mr. Levine will mind if I also post it here.

USMC Raider Stiletto by Camillus c. 1942

Here is a knife which was brought to my attention by former Camillus Cutlery Historian and avid collector Tom Williams. He recently found that the Camillus Historical Society did not have an example of a Camillus knife in their collections and so donated this knife from his. As he explained to me:

This knife was made by Camillus in 1942 and 14,370 were produced in two producton runs..

And further related about this knife on another forum:

...Most of these knives were issued to the Marine Raiders (Carlson and Eddson) and an unknown quantity were parkerized "black" and issued to the Canadian Airbourne Troops.
Camillus featured the Raider Stiletto in the first post WWII catalog. This knife was also used in the WWII movie "Gung Ho" starring Randolph Scott and Robert Mitchum...The sheath is a reproduction of the M6...




That year, 1942, Camillus produced 599,056 dozen knives 90% for the government. As far as the USMC Commando Knife goes, to quote Alfred Lief (1944 Business Life In America Series),

The British Model was reproduced with a much simpler construction, maintaining exact balance and dimensions and the cost was reduced by half!

Phil Gibbs recently reported that two fifty-five gallon drums of the unfinished blades were found in 1990's in their warehouse and some were assembled with pewter handles in lieu of the original zinc material.

Michael
 
I'd like to see what Tom or Phil Gibbs have to say about the origins of these knives. 1942, or 1990's rejects? Tom? Phil?

Michael
 
In my opinion those are original Marine Raider Stilettos.
They are definitely not the 1990 reproductions with pewter handles. The zinc cast on handles had a tendency to crack over time. Many I have handled over the years had broken tips & cracked handles, some with a portion of the guard missing. Shame about the blade corrosion & pity the sheaths are not included.

Again, in my humble opinion, I would value one with a better blade finish condition, good handle & an original sheath at $1200+
Are these 2 worth $900? Possibly, but not to me as I already have a better one!:)
 
...I already have a better one!:)

Lemme see! Lemmelemme...pleeeese? :D

Thanks for letting us know about these. Any idea of how many last constructed knives were made and when?? Were there other differences?

Michael
 
Most of my knives are still in moving boxes! :o
Along with the rest of my life......

The pewter handle reproductions using the original blades were done in the early 90s. They had blued blades & gold etches & were sold in an oak display case. I think between 1000 & 1200 were made?? Some left overs & some with sub-standard grinding were sold with a scotchbrite finish and leather sheath to SMKW (around 200 pcs).
 
We look forward to when you are all settled in and unpacked, as I am sure you do. I am a native from Arkansas (transplanted to Southwest Tennessee), so I know the area well. I think they will all like it there. I can give you a few pointers as to some superb vacation spots, suitable for even weekend getaways within easy driving distances. Welcome to the South!

Michael
 
That would be fun Mountainwind!
Got a sharp knife to bring?? :D
 
The original WWII Raider Stilettos had the Camillus name etched , not stamped, on the blade. A "USMC" scroll was also etched on the blade. This etching is usually very light.
The two Stilettos have the two weaknesses that Phil mentioned: cracked zinc handles and broken tips.
Phil,
Camillus also made the Stiletto blades during the 1960's or 1970's for a customer. I located the S-card for these blades (pattern #5677). Could these be the surplus blades stored in the two 55 gallon drums? I never mentioned this record to anyone since the company was claiming that the blades were left over from WWII.

Tom Williams
 
Here is the photo of the weak etch mentioned.



...and the handle cracks.



Michael
 
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