Camillus "demo" Scout knife.

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Hey guys. I finally got one of these all stainless steel "demo" knives I've been hearing a lot about, and I figured I'd post my initial reaction to it.
I've heard a lot of bad things about these knives, about how the springs weren't very good, they broke often, they made the blades nail breakers to open, the finish was rough, etc.
Well, I will say this. The finish IS rough. It is definitely not a Vic Soldier or Wenger SI. However, this knife is a tank. I have alot of hefty, tough knives, but this one feels like you can through it at a train that's comin at you and it will stop the train!! LOL. Of course I exaggerate, but you get the point. Not the heaviest of knives, but just feels rock solid. I guess it's what you'd expect from an all steel knife.
Now, I know Camillus went out of business, but this one says Camillus 2006 on the main blade. Other then the US on the scale, there are no other marks on the knife. Wasn't Camillus out of business by 2006?
As I said, it is a rough knife. The metal scales are not sharp, but not smooth either, like a Vic or Wenger. Plus, the grinds at the ends of the springs aren't exactly even, and the liners are not polished, but I guess since it was made for the Military, strength and durability are more important then style and finesse. However, there is no space between the scales, springs or liners, and the springs all match up evenly. The walk and talk on this knife is fine. Not too strong, not too weak. Almost to Vic standards, which surprised me as most spoke about how hard it was to open the blades, specially the can opener. Mine are good. The can opener says "can opener" on it, as is customary on these knives, but the blade is not sharp and pointy, like on a Wenger. However, it will still do the job. The bottle opener is the standard "scout knife" bottle opener, with the long flat head screw driver end. The Awl has been modified, however. The tip has been ground down and flattened to make it a small flat head screwdriver head, capable of working phillips head screws!! This is interesting. This knife apparently has never been used, as the blade is untouched and there really are no scratches anywhere else on this entire knife. It looks like this si the way it came out of the factory. Granted, someone some where might have modified it, but I actually like it. I use the drivers more day to day then I would an awl, and since these blades are sooo solid, I could use this as a small pry bar too. There is a small bit of wobble on the main blad,e but not too bad, and the other blades are pretty solid. The bail is different from the bail on the Wenger SI, in that it is attached to the pin that goes through the body of the knife. This bail is going nowhere. Tough as the rest of the knife. Not sure of the edge retention ability of this steel, so I can't comment on this yet, but over all I like this knife. Definitely a workhorse, and believe it or not, probably the toughest of all my slippies, SAKs or not. I used to think my SI or Case Sodbuster were my toughest go to knives, but wow. Like I said, this is a tank.
Just thought I'd tell ya'll about my recent purchase, since I know scout knives are posted about alot on here. I finally have one.
 
Maybe a photo to go with your text........300Bucks

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Thank you, sir. I know, i don't can't find my wife's camera so I couldn't post a pic. It looks just like that, except it only has a nail nick on the bottle opener, no thumb stud, the can opener is a little longer in the tooth, and the awl tip is a small screwdriver, and it has a bail.
Thanks for the save, 300B
 
The one in the pic is also old enough to have the thumbstud on the beer opener...they knew what was important back in the old days....mine doesn't have it either but it did serve me well enough when I was in the Cav...

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the goverment's spec's were + or minus .005 on the 1760 demo knife.they called for 440a,440b or 44oc.
 
The 'thumb stud' I'm led to believe fitted into the army issue rifle for dismantling, they got rid of it when the army changed to a more modern rifle.

You old grunts out there - is this correct?
 
Also, for any grunts who actually used one of these out in the field, is the edge retention ok? I mean, I figure if it's made for soldiers out in the boondocks without much chance to sharpen it on a regular basis, it should be made to last, no?
 
440a,440b or 44oc isn't too bad, though. From all I'd heard, I expected worse. So far I've sharpened it to shaving sharp and used it a little bit around the house. Still sharp. LOL. Granted, it wasn't used MUCH, but there ya go.
 
I like 440C....440A not a thrill :)

LOL. I hear ya. I just had heard so many negative things about this knife, a knife I had always wanted, that I wasn't sure what to expect, you know? I'll take 440A. It's a steel I can work with. Besides, from what I hear, it's not so much the steel but how it's heat treated, so, we'll see how this performs for me.
 
The blade is not the problem, although it's not the best edge holding. The main drawback to this knife is that the springs often break. They are made of the same material the blade and tools are made of so as to be easier to mass produce using the same steel. The tools like the bottle opener/screwdriver are often nail breakers to get open, especially in the cold, or if your hands are wet.

When I was in, I got mine for free, but after a while I just carried a sak instead for the better quality of knife, and quality of construction. It's not the knife the TL-29 is. Our supply room, (78th engineer company) had both, but from experiance, the soldiers had a very strong prefference for the TL-29 over the MLK knife.

For an example of an issue knife, it's okay to have one about, but if I were going out I'd rather have a sak soldier or Wenger SI.
 
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