Camillus EDC vs Sebenza

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Who has both? Everyone is telling me the EDC is a better knife than the small Sebenza. Why?
 
The Camillus EDC is defintely not better than a Sebenza. With that said, I believe that the EDC is much better value than the small Sebenza. It's just a matter of what kind of quality you're willing to pay for.
 
When you get to this point, you probably are better off comparing the Darrel Ralph 3" EDC with the Sebenza. They seem to me to be much more comparable than the camillus EDC and the Sebenza.
 
I have both. The EDC sees no carry time. It does not fit my hand comfortably, and lacks the grip versatility of the Sebenza. On a personal note, I really dislike recurved edges...just my opinion.
The EDC is well made and a good value for the money. I just don't find it to be in the same class (or even close) to the Sebenza.

Paul
 
The Darrel Ralph EDC has thicker handles than the Cammilus EDC, made out of titanium with a better lockup that is more comparable to a Sebenza. It also has D2 steel in the blade.

I also think that the tolerances are a lot better on the DDR EDC. That is usually the comment that everyone makes about the Sebenza, that there is a lot of work that goes into making sure that everything is the same on every one every time. That of course is somthing that quite a few Sebenza owners boast about, that custom feel for a little lower price.

Here is a picture of mine:
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db, i just don't understand you. you always jump at the chance to insult me. yet you ask a very silly question such as this. you should know that almost everyone around here would think the sebenza is better. who told you the edc is better? not to mention i posted this same exact thread a month ago! it is funny you would ask the same question i once asked, yet you think i am stupid!

i hope this helps:
after i finally handled the camillus(and beleive it or not, db i have sebenzas) i decided there is no comparison. unless you have baby hands, the camillus isn't gonna be very comfortable for you. on the other hand the sebenza being about the same overall size as the camillus fits my giant hand like a good glove. i guess that is part of the reason the sebenza is so expensive. it's design is deceptivly simple, yet highly functional. yeah, the edc is better than the $40 it sells for. it could even fetch $100. i like to say the sebenza is overpriced, yet the more i think about it, it is really in fact a bargain. there are a lot of customs that aren't as nice as the seb.
i am still looking for $100 knives that match the sebenzas prowess that i can feal good about destroying. i have yet to find any. i doubt will. the camillus is a great buy for $40. just make sure, as with any production knife that you get a good one. that is the other thing, crk might let 1 bad one slip by out of like 25,000 units. with a lot of companys every other one stinks. well, camillus is still pretty good overall. but, it is no sebenza. i said in an earlier post today that the only thing unatractive about the sebenza is the price. the same thing applies to a porsche 911. if you want good stuff be prepared to pay for it. yes, i bashed the sebenza just a little, simply because i think it would be a lot easier to swallow if it were in the neighborhood of $200. once again, it is priced at what the market will bear. so that dictates what it is worth. i have an idea for every one that really wants to taste the sebenza. instead of buying the next 6 cheap knives you see, save that dough towards the seb! in the end you will have one high quality status symbol instead of a pocket full of sharp folding metal!

now, db i hope we can try to get along better in the future.


thank you,
holdanedge.
 
Holdanedge, you finally almost got one thing right! Not only do I think you are stupid, but I also think you are a liar, and every one of your posts are full of trollish behavior. At best I think you are just another knowitall kid with no first hand experience and when you are called on a lie you result to insults and threats. That’s right I said threats. Like the child you are you threaten me, delete the post, then deny you ever did it. Us get along? LOL I don’t think that’s going to happen until you grow up some.
 
I own two of each and have used them a great deal.

The Sebi has better materials Ti frame vs steel, BG-42 and S30V vs 154CM and D2. The Sebi can be taken appart and worked on by a child. The Camillus is Loc tited to stop you doing such things!:( . The recurve blade will not take a hair popping edge as well as the double convex Sebi edge. The 'feel' and 'build' are two different worlds each in a goldfish bowl rules by mutant lobsters called 'Harries':D

I like both, the Benza is carried, the EDC is not. One is in box as a keeper, the other is on kitchen duty.

The EDC is the nearest thing to a good factory style small Sebi, but it ain't the same.
 
Originally posted by db
Who has both? Everyone is telling me the EDC is a better knife than the small Sebenza. Why?
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Ummm...:eek: If it lives under a bridge and scares goats...:p ;)

I hear a lot from this Everyone, he's a fibber of the first order!:rolleyes: ;)
 
Originally posted by The General
The Sebi has better materials Ti frame vs steel, BG-42 and S30V vs 154CM and D2.
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I guess that "better materials" are in the eye of the beholder. I personally prefer D2 over BG-42.
 
Each to his own, my D2 blades hold an edge as well but not better than my BG-42 blades. Oh they rust very easily where BG-42 does not. Each to his own.

Then again, at the price point of the Benza, the heat treat is probably better anyway.:rolleyes:
 
The General says...
The Sebi has better materials Ti frame vs steel, BG-42 and S30V vs 154CM and D2.
Is TI really better? Stronger tuffer than steel? Also lets compare BG-42 and S30v to D2 and talonite. Btw I have compared S30 to D2 and they are very close to the same in edge holding. S30 winns however. Personally I haven't had any problems with D2 rusting but the S30 also is more rust resistant. S30 is a great steel and I have a hard time thinking of anything I don't like about it. Also from what I am told the EDC is very easy to take apart, a small child could to it also.

db trolling along :)
 
Originally posted by holdanedge
instead of buying the next 6 cheap knives you see, save that dough towards the seb! in the end you will have one high quality status symbol instead of a pocket full of sharp folding metal!
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This is a good suggestion to come up with the money for a Sebenza, but I doubt if any "pocketknife" will be seen as a status symbol by anyone outside this forum. I'd say buy a Seb because you love it, not because you think it will get you women or a better paying job. No one walks into their school reunion and has the former prom queen look at his pocket clip and say, "Ooooh...a Sebenza, he sure has made it in life!":(
 
Both OwenM and Tmac carry carbon fiber DDR EDC's, and both are former small Sebbie carriers. I resepct both these men quite a bit.

If these guys say that the DDR EDC is a high precision knife, with a high performance grind, than it is. I inspected tmacs, and it seemed to be a well built knife.

As for the production EDC, I'll gladly take my Sebbie over it, but if that was what I had to carry, I wouldn't be sad.

The Talonite version is a bargain, as are the D2 and 154 CM models.
 
I agree they are a great bargain, and I have the d2 one, and it is more than a bargain. It's a great well built knife. And yes, General Camillus does know how to heat treat D2 right. I was thinking about the new s30 Sebenzas and a few friends tell me that it doesn't have anything on my EDC.So, I asked here, and so far I haven't seen anything different. I should say I did carry a large Benza for a short time and didn't care for it I prefered my BM Leopard cub at the time.
 
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