Camo nylon clothes

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Anyone have a source for light camo nylon pants and shirts? I have found plenty of cotton and cotten blend camo, but it stays wet down here on the gulf coast.
Maybe a ripstop nylon set...
Thanks for the help.
Bill
 
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try here:
http://www.actiongear.com/



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Ron,
Bremerton, Washington
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Bill,

This subject drives me crazy. Every major outdoor catalog offer a wide variety of cotton clothes, but, very few offer quaity synthetic clothing.

You would think the outdoor gear giants would help us out.

There is a saying that "cotton kills".

I hope someday they will put out a cargo pant worthy of heavy use thats made of the right materials.
 
Goretex Taslin DPM is all man made as used in waterproofs.

Cotton is best for military use because of the high risk of fire. Think phosphorous grenades and monakof(?) cocktails petrol bombs. It is only recently that sythetics have had some fire retardment built in. Would you want melted plastic in your wounds?

The SAS windproof is a lightish weight garberdine cotton for fast drying, and used as an outer shell. Warm clothing goes underneath, which is often than not synthetic. Rip stops have those guard threads, but remain mostly cotton. The military surplus market keeps a readily available supply of DPM kit that would make anything civilian difficult to compete with.

I agree cotton is a killer once wet as an undergarment. However, I like its quietness and that it is a natural fibre.

How would a synthetic help?
 
Greenjacket

I never thought about the fire issue which must be a real hazard for military personel.
However from a wilderness survival stand point cotton gets wet and stays wet. Also it contributes to skin rashes when it stays wet in hot and humid environments. I need light weight synthetic camo, and to be careful with fire.
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counsel-of-record -- I wish I knew/remembered what material the "jungle utilities" we wore in Vietnam were made from. They sure weren't ripstop, because they were in fact prone to ripping once a hole got started.Nevertheless, I managed to avoid any skin rashes during my 19 mos over there.

I'm convinced it was because of what a more experienced person told/advised me on my first or second day in my outfit. He told me, almost like an order, to immediately get rid of all my underwear. He said maybe keep a set or two for R&R, but to just toss the rest. I did as he suggested, and never had any problems. Later, when it became available, used vast quantities of talcum/baby powder, but did all right without it. I assume the utes were made from cotton. Once there was any real source of heat, lightweight cotton drys pretty quickly.

So, if you are unable to find the ripstop nylon you seek, that would be my first suggestion to you, should you get into a survival situation -- toss the skivvies.



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Bugs
 
My first reaction is to agree with Greenjacket. I like the quietness of cotton and other natural fibers. I've yet to see a truly silent nylon.

I only use nylon as an outer shell when I don't care who sees (or hears) me.
 
I know a lot of the boys tossed their skivvies. Some never put them back on as they found there were additional benefits once in a night club or on the way home from the pub
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Jungles, as we called them were our DPM issue jungle warfare uniforms. They were a polycotton with 10%(?) synthetic. This gave the extra wear/strength/rot proofing to last a jungle period. Modern kit doesn't last that long compared to the heavy duty campaign uniforms of yesteryear. Thats why you have a QM that can right off the stuff. "Jungles" dried fast especially if there was some wind. We liked them so much that we would wear them in Wales where it was gale force nine. They took ten minutes to dry so long as you were out of the rain. If you want dry clothes for the night then wear your spare clothes. Change back into your wet kit in the morning.

If you are working you are going to get wet anyway. I know that some of the more advanced civilian sythetics proclaim their superiority both for thermal qualities in the cold and wicking in the hot but to my mind their real advantages are in weight and robustness. Many sythetics are too hot and don't allow you body's sweat to work correctly. Cotton does, even with a small persentage of sythetic. However, I do like fibrepile next to the skin for working in when its cold outside. Wet Cotton next to the skin in the freezing cold can kill.

Most skin problems I put down to two things. Climatitisation, where an individual has not had time to adjust to the conditions; this includes being unused to being dirty and dustier. Most of us are just too clean. Bugs and bacteria that thrive on you differ from place to place and your body needs to be given time to adjust.
The other reason is cleanliness when you have got smeggy. A week is about as long as you can go before you start growing stuff that you don't want. Less if its hot and wet. So personal hygene, even if its only your collar and cuffs in a mess tin, needs to be carried out. Salt washed out of your clothes helps too. Just think of how much fluid your body is pumping out, gallons of the stuff. Once the rot has set in its difficult to shift.

Your body has a brilliant, tough, waterproof outer called skin. Give it a chance; clothing is just fashion. Cotton works just fine, but you might have to change your shirt a few times a day to keep smart.

Lastly, sythetics do have more fire retardants in them than before. Just watch it that you don't get too close to that camp fire or that stove in your tent whoooof!
 
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