Can a knife change its spots?

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Merek

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(a) *** It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5 1/2) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife. :barf:

Is it possible for a folder to actually become a fixed blade knife? Did someone change the definition of 'Fixed Blade": A fixed blade is a knife in which the blade does not fold? I can see a decent lawyer winning on this point.

Texas Law says I can carry UP to 5 1/2" with no distinction as per folder or fixed that I can see. Is the above BS from a city code superceded by the state code? :confused:
 
WTF?

I read this 10 times, and it still doesn't make sense. It's unlawful to carry a such a knife LESS THAN 5.5" blade length? :confused:
 
Planterz said:
WTF?

I read this 10 times, and it still doesn't make sense. It's unlawful to carry a such a knife LESS THAN 5.5" blade length? :confused:
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He's quoting part of a city statute. The net effect is "no blades over 5 1/2", and the blades _under_ 5 1/2" can't lock".
 
Ah, OK. That makes sense.

Well, actually, it doesn't, but it's clear now.
 
Merek said:
Is it possible for a folder to actually become a fixed blade knife? Did someone change the definition of 'Fixed Blade": A fixed blade is a knife in which the blade does not fold? I can see a decent lawyer winning on this point.
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I dont know if they could or not. I understand that technically it does not become a fixed blade knife, but the spirit of the law is understandable. Sad, but we know what they mean.

Merek said:
Texas Law says I can carry UP to 5 1/2" with no distinction as per folder or fixed that I can see. Is the above BS from a city code superceded by the state code? :confused:
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City codes can be more restrictive than state law, not less. So the city is within its rights to pass such an ordinance.
 
Pardon me in advance....but it's all them Yang Dankees movin' in and screwing up Texas law! Don't even go there with that New Hampshire guy claiming to be a Texan cause he keeps a few cattle in Crawford. I am curmudgeonly 'nuff to have an opinion and an attitude about most everything and not being free to carry the sidearm or tool of my choice without some damn carpetbegger telling me it is dangerous... damn right it's dangerous, ain't that the idea? When the whole world is Nerf covered at least i'll be able to trim me a rough spot to be comfortable in.
It is bothersome to an 'old' guy like me who grew up carrying large sheath knives and all manner of weaponry when roaming the woods and creeks to find out that now that I am 'grown up' and cain't even carry a puny folder lest I frighten the sheeple?
Basically what I am getting at is screw the finer points of the law, I'll keep my EDCs and BWs within reason (for a Texan). If I get snagged I can deal with the consequences.
Now, about them barbwire fences and No Trespassing suggestions.... :D
Y'all have fun now, y'hear?
 
Merek, which city's code is this BS from? I'd like to avoid visiting there if I can.. I was gonna say it looks like they want to ban any lockback _over_ 5.5 inches, but then I read it again and now it looks like they wanted to ban any lockbacks under 5.5 with their pissant city code, while Texas state law bans any knife over 5.5. :rolleyes: Like I said, where's this jerkwater so I can avoid it? BTW, does this city code have a subsection (b) which then bans all fixed blades? Fergit Yankees, I think this town's lawyers are a bunch of Limeys! ;)

Matt in Texas
 
Unfortunately it is one of the 10 largest cities in the US, San Antonio, home of the Alamo, wherein died one of the most famous knife fighters in history. Bowie wasn't born here either but he can stay. We like him pretty well. :)
I think they were targeting Buck 110s which were pretty popular here in the 70s. Knee jerk law like the switchblades fell prey to. :mad:
 
txmoonwolf said:
Fergit Yankees, I think this town's lawyers are a bunch of Limeys! ;)
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Actually, isn't this the same principle used in England's case law to ban locking knives (that a lockback wasn't "readily" foldable, making it a fixed blade for all intents and purposes)? :rolleyes:
 
Despite the INTENT of the law or what they would like it to say. A folder (lockback or no) 'by definition' has a pivot point for the blade allowing it to fold and a fixed blade does not. Period. No folder can become a fixed blade unless it is welded open. Simply locking it (by its normal mechanisms) makes it a safer tool and cannot change the knife and the definition applied will not fit, and law not only goes by definition but is challenged by it. :grumpy:
 
Speaking of New Hampshire, we have the second most lax gun laws in the country (next to Vermont) and there's not maximum length specified for folding or fixed blade knives.
Damn, I love me bein' a Yankee....

- Chris
 
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