can anyone identify this knife?

[Mo2]

This was being sold in the for sale section and the owner didnt know what it was. he already sold it, but i like the design and want to know more information about it, as i may want to get one, depending on its specs.

 

[Sigsog226]

I saw that one too. I think its a snubby/ emerson cqc 14. Waveless of course.

 

[Hickory n steel]

It's unmarked and has 3 different types of fasteners on it, so it's probably an inexpensive knife made in china.
I've never seen Philips screw on a good knife,plus one of the torx type screw for the scales on one side looks miss sized.

 

[Mo2]

I saw that one too. I think its a snubby/ emerson cqc 14. Waveless of course.

its not one of those but looks very similar. smaller blade? no wave, contoured g10 scales and different screw orientation.

 

[Mo2]

It's unmarked and has 3 different types of fasteners on it, so it's probably an inexpensive knife made in china.
I've never seen Philips screw on a good knife,plus one of the torx type screw for the scales on one side looks miss sized.

the Emersons have the Philips screws for the clip.

it appears that maybe its a different variant? would it be a custom? its possible its an inexpensive replica, but im not sure about that myself.

 

[Hickory n steel]

its not one of those but looks very similar. smaller blade? no wave, contoured g10 scales and different screw orientation.

I didn't know that there were any high end knives using Philips screws, so I stand corrected on that point.

 

[Professor]

What hollers at me, since if it were mine I'd replace all of the Phillips hardware for Torx or slotted, is the lack of the clip-side pivot assembly. It's no doubt hidden under the scale, but that's either a custom scale job or a "semblance" from another origin.

 

[photoman12001]

Hey, I'm the one who picked this up and stumbled upon this thread trying to find more information on it since the seller didn't know anything about it. I grabbed it because it was something different and I wanted to check it out. I might have overpaid but it was less than $100 so I rolled the dice with it. I'm not an Emerson fan but I've owned several (including a CQC-14). This looks like a modified CQC-14 and I thought it might fix some of the issues I have with Emersons. Here's what I found:

• Fit/finish is much better than any Emerson I've owned. Assembled, there are no glaring flaws I can find. Disassembled, there are machining marks on the sides of the liners and backspacer (grind lines that you would see on the liners of a typical factory Emerson).
• When I got it the lock engagement was at about 10%. If I looked at the blade spine too hard the tang would slip off the liner lock. Ok, that's an obvious exaggeration but a single light spine tap against my palm would disengage the lock. I'm not a "spine whacker" but with engagement that shallow I had to check it out. I tore it apart completely and the pivot was absolutely caked with a sludgy grease. After I throughly cleaned everything and re-assembled the lock engages at about 50% and light spine taps on my palm do not disengage the lock. That's good enough for me.
• The lock side liner and G10 are thicker than the non-lock side. The pivot fastener is hidden under that G10.
• The blade rides on Teflon washers and the action is actually pretty nice. The blade is well-centered when closed. The detent is good when closed and it has dual detents (one on each side).
• Obviously if it was a factory CQC-14 at one point the Wave tab has been removed. I would guess this to be the case. That area has been jimped. The work seems pretty good but not perfect.
• The seller claimed the blade was reground by Tom Mayo. I don't know if it is true or how to really find out, but honestly don't care. The primary bevel now has a shallow hollow grind and seems well executed. The edge bevel is very small and a "V" grind as opposed to the standard Emerson chisel ground edge. I touched it up on my Sharp Maker and it slices well.
• The handle is very comfortable but the tiny nub of a blade is ridiculous for the size of the handle, even more so than a factory CQC-14 because the handle is much larger and the blade is smaller. I would actually like to have a more proportional blade custom made and installed, something along the lines of a CQC-8 shape, but I doubt it would be worth the cost if I could find someone to do it. I like beefy knives (lots of ZTs, Benchmade Adamas, Hinderer MP-1, etc.) so I think that would be right up my alley.

Overall I'm glad I picked it up even though I don't really know its history or even if it actually is a modded CQC-14 (as opposed to some kind of knock-off). Regardless, it's nicer than any actual Emerson I've owned. I wish now that I had done a video when I disassembled it or at least snapped a few photos. I'll try to snap a few photos later. I did find a photo via Google (linked below) that shows what the metal backspacer looks like, though mine does not have the circular cut-outs and instead has milled lines that run perpendicular to the liners for all but the last 1-1/4" as it approaches the angled portion in the middle of the handle.

If anyone has any further information I'd be grateful to hear it.

 

[T.K.C.]

the Emersons have the Philips screws for the clip.

it appears that maybe its a different variant? would it be a custom? its possible its an inexpensive replica, but im not sure about that myself.

No, it is NOT an Emerson custom!! It looks like a knock off to me.

 

[photoman12001]

No, it is NOT an Emerson custom!! It looks like a knock off to me.

I certainly hope it's not a custom Emerson. If I'd bought this as a custom I'd demand my money back. My guess is it's a CQC-14 that has been customized (modded) by a third party. I don't know that for sure. It could be a knock-off but it seems like a strange knife to clone. The original can't be a huge seller.

Anyway, here are a few more photos. I also did a video that I'll post later.

 

[SW-EDC]

No markings at all?
Smells knockoff.

 

[Nautique]

It's boggling my skull beef.

 

[photoman12001]

No markings at all?
Smells knockoff.

No markings but the blade has been modified (supposedly) and coated so markings were likely eliminated.

 

[SW-EDC]

Ah..ok.

 

[Hickory n steel]

They don't stamp their blades ?
If they care about their knives they should make sure they'll always be identifiable.

 

[PURPLEDC]

That doesnt look like a knock off to me. And i know knockoffs . That looks like custom work though just older.

 

[PURPLEDC]

They don't stamp their blades ?
If they care about their knives they should make sure they'll always be identifiable.

Modified blades will often lose markings.

 

[photoman12001]

Yeah, I'm doubting it's a clone. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to clone a knife that has a small number of potential buyers (huge handle, tiny blade) and it's very obviously not a factory Emerson. Not even close.

Here are some photos of the factory CQC-14 I had. It's one of the few Emersons I actually regret selling a bit. It was just different. That's why I grabbed this one. I do wonder what all was done to this. You can see the locking liner on the factory CQC-14 is thicker than the non-locking side but the disparity is greater on this knife.

 

[photoman12001]

By the way, that photo I linked to above with the backspacer similar to mine was from this article: http://www.gusstrand.com/blog/emerson-cqc-14-snubby-modified-by-phil-ferrrk-bruckerhoff/

It states that CQC-14 was modded by Phil "ferrrk" Bruckerhoff. I thought maybe he did this one too since the backspacer is similar.

 

[Hickory n steel]

Modified blades will often lose markings.

If it was actually properly stamped and not just etched, I think that there would at least be some evidence on it left as the spot where it would be is still there.
I'm just saying you can't really lose the stamp on a buck knife, and that's because they want the person who inherits the knife in 30+ years to know it's a BUCK knife.