Can I modify a head into a HB/norlund type?

schmittie

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I've looked around and the Hudson Bay or norlund pattern is not something that is common to my are from what I have seen so far. On the auction site, well, I can't say I want to spend that much either.


I understand that there are those that so not like the style or pattern and I have even read that the heads are notorious for coming loose due to less material in contact with the haft. But I have also heard others like it just fine. I would really like to try it myself.

Here is my idea. Please tell me if it is a bad one:


A few months back I aquired this old axe from my father-in-law's old barn. It was just collecting rust.

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I cleaned up the head, filed down some of the mushroomed metal and managed to get the handle off. The old handle was really warped. I tried but could not get it straightened out despite the fact I had thought I made some progress. I always up for a new project but I didn't just want to throw it on another handle and call it good. It's an older, no name axe head. A buddy has given me access to his plasma cutter. Do you think this old head could be modified? Is there any danger in cutting Dow. To resemble more of a HB pattern? If I could do it, I'd love to put it in a 20-24" handle and only take ONE axe when camping, instead of the usual Fiskars axe, hatchet combo. (Although the hatchet is really cool, especially with the kydex cover Kiah, here on BF, made for it. It's safety orange with a firesteel loop too!!)


I respect you gentleman and admire your experience and knowledge. What do you think? Bad idea? Doable? Or worth a shot? I'd take pics all the way, of course. ;)
 
The plasma cutter would ruin the heat treat. The axe wouldn't hold an edge and once you got one on it wouldn't last very long. If you have the means to re heat treat and temper, then go for it. If not then I wouldn't waste the time on it.
 
Love the idea I have made a few but always used a hacksaw if I were you I would cut it with drops on the eye like jersey pattern heads because that will give the head more contact with the haft. i would really use a hand saw because you will blow the temper unless you are good with a pmt or at least hand cut the cheek and the use the plasma to cut the rest
 
I always haft my own heads and have never had a problem with my HB heads loosening up. If you're worried about the reduced eye to handle contact consider modifying your axe head like the Snow and Nealley/LLBean/Plumb versions of the HB which have a "deeper" eye than the Norlund/Collins versions of the HB.

Steve
 
I'd use an angle grinder for this job.

Thanks for the modified image.

I was thinking along those lines but now I wonder if I could cut some ears into it to make more contact with the haft? That is the concept, right?
 
If it was my decision, at the back of the lugs, I'd leave the poll as intact as possible and not do that 45 degree cut. One, its a witch to cut. Two, it'll help the balance. Enjoy!
 
I always haft my own heads and have never had a problem with my HB heads loosening up. If you're worried about the reduced eye to handle contact consider modifying your axe head like the Snow and Nealley/LLBean/Plumb versions of the HB which have a "deeper" eye than the Norlund/Collins versions of the HB.

Steve
I have never owned a hb it have made a few like what he thinking about and always had a hard keeping the head straight that's why I brought up the idea of drop outs or lugs
 
I *think* an angle-grinder with a cutting disc is the way to go about this. Start your cut at the edge and go inward an inch or so as your first cut. by the time heat builds up you'll be away from the critical area. A little filing to remove any softened steel might be necessary.

If you do go hudson bay with the short eye, I think it might be a good idea to hang it with the handle proud so there's wood above the eye to mushroom out and hold it on.
 
Definitely DO NOT use plasma, or a torch, or any heat cutting tool. Even an angle grinder would probably generate too much heat, or you would have to keep dipping it in water every 5secs to keep it cool. Even if it doesn't heat up to the point of losing temper, the localized heat would create stress fractures in the metal.

The ideal way would be on a bandsaw with a metal cutting blade. Scribe out the design on the head, then make vertical cuts down to the scribe line, then cut out the pieces.
 
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