Can someone help me find a food checklist?

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Does anyone have a good site or list for emergency food stockpiling? Kind of looking for a check list to take with me to the store this weekend, getting ready for the bird flu. I have actually come to the conclusion that I am not afraid of the flu as much as I am of all the other people panicing. So its time to get a jump start on everyone else.
Wade
 
You might try some Mormon sites (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a.k.a. LDS). They keep a year of stores according to their faith.

I have seen information from them that was really good, but don't remember where. It tends to be "old-time" type information though, making do with methods and materials from days gone by.

My wife and I have some stores (we're not mormon). We have a bunch of beans and rice for protein and powdered apple cider mix for vitamin C. Other parts of a balanced diet are less difficult than vitamin C. The cider mix is the best (storable) source we've found.

Scott
 
The best advice is to just keep buying what you would usually buy, but get more of it. Slowly build up your supplies until you have however much you think you need. Rotate your supplies through your normal routine so that they don't go bad.

Anything canned will keep for a good long time. Frozen foods and foods that require refrigeration are suspect because if the SHTF then electricity might go out.

You don't have to hurry. We aren't in imminent danger of the bird flu, or any other source of widespread social breakdown. At least, I don't think so as long as I stay away from the politics forum. ;)

Stay away from MREs and other "survival" food. If you wouldn't normally eat it in your day-to-day routine, what makes you think you'll want to eat it if you're holed up in your house/apartment for the months of a pandemic?
 
bulgron said:
The best advice is to just keep buying what you would usually buy, but get more of it. Slowly build up your supplies until you have however much you think you need. Rotate your supplies through your normal routine so that they don't go bad.

Anything canned will keep for a good long time. Frozen foods and foods that require refrigeration are suspect because if the SHTF then electricity might go out.

You don't have to hurry. We aren't in imminent danger of the bird flu, or any other source of widespread social breakdown. At least, I don't think so as long as I stay away from the politics forum. ;)

Stay away from MREs and other "survival" food. If you wouldn't normally eat it in your day-to-day routine, what makes you think you'll want to eat it if you're holed up in your house/apartment for the months of a pandemic?

Exactly, just buy more of the stuff you eat now, at least you know you like it and it has kept you healthy.
 
Ready.gov recommends that people have food and water supplies for three days. That link is directly to their food recommendations and checklists. Ready.gov is a U.S. government web site started after 9/11/01. I'd suggest reading around the Ready.gov site to get information over and above what I'm recommending. It seems a very good source. Here's a link to the Red Cross Disaster Supplies Kit.

Generally, it is recommended that there be three 12- to 16-ounce cans of non-perishable food and a gallon of water, per person, per day. That is for the average person. If there are younger/smaller members in your family group, then that "ration" can probably be smaller; if you have a larger member or two in your party, that ration may need to be increased.

With the Avian Flu being prepared for, and Avian Flu spread supposedly/allegedly active in six- to eight-week "waves," I believe that we need to prepare to have three 12- to 16-ounce cans of food per person, per day, and a gallon of water per person, per day, for a six- to eight-week "wave." It's always better to prepare for a longer period than a shorter period, because it will be the local, state and federal government officials that will be lifting the quarantine, and government officials are usually conservative when it comes to giving the "All Clear" signal.

That's why having a portable, battery-operated radio, and extra batteries, is so necessary. Because a pandemic flu will probably/likely lead to widespread quarantines, we'll need to get our information, somehow, when "word of mouth" will be unlikely. Hopefully telephone, electricity, water, and sewer services will continue, after the Bird Flu pandemic arrives, but, we cannot guarantee it. If quarantines spread to all or virtually all workplaces, then we probably cannot rely on having telephone, electric, water, and sewer services.

It's best to get prepared for the Avian Flu now because we aren't certain when the Bird Flu will arrive on our shores, and/or when the Avian Flu will begin human to human transmission. We also don't know when a panic over Bird Flu will arrive, and people start panicked preparation.

If the Avian Flu never reaches pandemic stage and/or the Bird Flu has reached pandemic status, but, isn't a too virulent or fatal of a variation, then the food and water that you've become prepared with can be relatively seamlessly folded into your regular diet. That's another reason to purchase non-perishable canned goods that you and your family already consume and enjoy.

Getting prepared for the Avian Flu doesn't have to be a one-time shopping spree. One way to prepare, that is more relaxed, but, takes more time, is just to remember to get extra cans of food, and extra jugs of water, whenever you go shopping. If you're preparing for your family, take everyone along on your grocery trips, a couple of times, and see if the kids can find things that they might like to eat that you aren't certain about. You can focus on stockpiling by groups. One week, you focus on canned vegetables, the next week, put emphasis in getting canned fruits, another week, grab canned meats, after that, look for soups and beans, etc., etc.

Because of the likelihood of being unable to maintain your regular healthy and balanced diet, filled with fresh foods, you should also try to remember to get multi-vitamins, suitable for each of the age groups in your party, and, enough of them for one per person, per day, for six- or eight-weeks. Personally, I'm shooting for the eight-week preparation level. That's a lot of canned food and bottled water, even for one person - at least 168 cans of food and at least 56 gallons of bottled water.

Medications are another important factor, too. Luckily, I'm not currently prescribed any medicines, so that isn't something that I need to fret about. Getting a six- to eight-week supply of insulin or high blood pressure medication might be difficult to accomplish. Unfortunately, I don't know, but, that would be a question to ask your physician. He or she should be able to give you guidance, in that regard.

Because the Avian Flu hasn't even reached the U.S., in birds, we haven't had any cases of H5N1 in the U.S., so far. H5N1 has been predicted to reach the U.S. along with the migratory birds, during the summer or fall of 2006.

This 2005-2006 H5N1 Avian Flu may never mutate into a variety that has human to human transmission, and/or is as deadly of a flu variation as the 1918-1919 "Spanish Flu." We just do not know, so far. Myself, I've found that getting as prepared as I can be, at least, can give me some measure of peace of mind.

Peace of mind, in and of itself, is as important as any other preparation that you might take....

GeoThorn
 
Bird flu isn’t easily spread between humans, study says
By Susanne Rust

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

MILWAUKEE — An international team of researchers has identified the biological roadblock that prevents the avian influenza virus, H5N1, from transmitting easily between people.

Researchers familiar with the study say the findings are “comforting” because it indicates that it might be difficult for the disease to become the deadly human pandemic many have feared.

“This paper gets better every time I read it,” said William Schaffner, a flu expert and head of the preventive medicine department at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tenn., who was not involved in the study. “They combined modern immunochemistry with old-fashioned anatomical reasons for explaining why certain diseases spread and why some don't.”

Since 2003, more than 100 people worldwide have died from H5N1. Most of these people have had close contact with infected poultry. However, the disease has not been able to jump easily between people.

And although there are a handful of purported human-to-human cases, those have been among family members and caregivers who were in close contact with the sick.

To understand why it's been so difficult for H5N1 to spread between people, University of Wisconsin-Madison flu expert Yoshihiro Kawaoka and his colleagues asked the question: What are the molecular barriers that limit this transmission?

To answer that, they examined cells on tissue samples taken from the respiratory tracts of eight people. They were looking for specific receptors — or surface molecules — that are known to bind to H5N1 influenza viruses.

They discovered that only cells located in the deep, dark recesses of the human lower respiratory tract could bind to avian flu. Those in the upper respiratory tract, where human flus are carried, could not.
Human flus, which can be contracted through the air, generally move between people by catching a ride on the currents of sneezes and coughs. But because the avian flu is lodged so deeply in the lungs, once it's in, the virus has a difficult time climbing back out.

The finding might also explain why the disease manifests itself as a deadly pneumonia, Schaffner said.

He said that while the vast majority of human flus begin as bronchitis, with pneumonia occurring only as a result of “the bacterial wreckage” caused by those upper infections, the avian flu goes directly to the lungs, causing a pneumonia that is viral in origin.

“This study explains why we're seeing what we're seeing,” said Dennis Maki, an infectious disease expert at UW-Madison, who was not involved in the study.

But, he said, it shows something else, too — something that could bring people hope.

“Two hundred to 300 million birds have been infected” by the disease, said Maki. And probably “about a billion people have been in very close and daily contact with these infected birds.”

Despite the ample exposure and opportunity, the virus has not yet become an efficient human killer.

“Could it happen still?” he asked. “Yes, absolutely.”

But the research indicates it's going to take a lot more than a single mutation, as some have predicted, to get this virus to become the human killer many have feared, he said.

Indeed, Kawaoka and his colleagues noted in their paper that for H5N1 to become an efficient human-to-human traveler, it'll need to undergo a series of key genetic mutations.

That could buy time for health officials to prepare for a future pandemic, whether it's via H5N1 or another new virulent strain.
But Maki hopes the disease will burn out in birds before it ever begins to spread efficiently between people.

To speed that process, he said, “We may want to selectively immunize domestic poultry, as the Chinese and Europeans are planning to do, to prevent transmission from infected domestic birds to people.

Then the risk of transmission mainly would be from infected wild birds that can spread the disease — a reservoir with which people generally have very little contact.

He added that if people start to see H5N1 disease in wild North American birds, we should not only keep all domestic fowl indoors, but also pet cats, “because cats are easily infected and could pose a risk to humans.”
I just wanted to post this because the Avian/Bird Flu is just the latest scare coming down the pike, and that there are theories to the contrary available. Not everyone is in "The Sky Is Falling" mode.

However, nonetheless, getting prepared for something that may not happen is far better than not preparing for something that starts happening....

GeoThorn
 
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