can this william henry's pivot be adjusted?

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jayjay

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hi all,

please look at this:
http://williamhenryknives.com/collection/popups/t09-cfd.html

can the pivot on this knife be adjusted? if so what type of tool do i need and where might i get it?

the reason i ask is because i have also another william henry that has metal bolsters and it has much smoother action. the cf one seems tight. does the cf one just have a different action than the metal ones? i'd like it a lot looser.


thanks.
 
Is the WH CF new? I'd let it break in before you consider changing the pivot tension.

Plus, I'd imagine you;d have to send it to WH to change that anyway.
 
it is new. but the metal bolstered ones all seem to have a much smoother action when new. i have a couple of metal ones from wh and have handled many others. maybe the carbon just doesnt have as nice an action because it only has a metal frame on one side. it does have washers on both sides.

the one thing about wh i love so much is the silky smooth open/close. this is the first cf one i got and it doesnt seem as nice.

i thought other knives have a pivot screw like that also? i remember having some seki made knives that have this screw. i hope there is a tool.


thanks.
 
yes. it can be adjusted - its a screw type pivot just like most others - but you need the right tool to grip the screw side. I use snap-ring/circlip type pliers that have the right size attachments and that works fine. I wouldnt use regular pliers or even fine needle nose as the risk to scratch is too great.
 
jayjay said:
is there maybe any tool just for knives that fits that exactly?

thanks.
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I'm guessing yes, there is, but you won't be able to get one. Like most any tamper-resistant screws many companies use to -- *ahem* -- screw us.
 
just go to any auto parts store and pick up a cheap set of circlip/snap ring pliers - they work as well as anything else and fit perfectly.
 
jayjay said:
hi all,

please look at this:
http://williamhenryknives.com/collection/popups/t09-cfd.html

can the pivot on this knife be adjusted? if so what type of tool do i need and where might i get it?

the reason i ask is because i have also another william henry that has metal bolsters and it has much smoother action. the cf one seems tight. does the cf one just have a different action than the metal ones? i'd like it a lot looser.


thanks.
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I had (just sold actually) the T-09 CF Kestrel. It was much tighter than my Monarch B-5. I didn't want to adjust it, but I found that it was pretty tight. If I looked closely, the nylon washer was spinning as I'd open the blade. On my other WH's, the washer remained static. I got all worried (for nothing) and sent it back to WH for 'repair'. All they did was lube it and send it back to me. It worked great after that. The washer still moved a bit, but it didn't affect performance or anything. It was considerably smoother after that. It simply needed to break in.

Lesson learned, I no longer worry so much about the little things. Also, try a bit of lube like Militec before you change the pivot tension. Note about Militec...a little goes a long way! One drop on each side of the pivot is all that's needed. Work it in real well with lots of opening/closing action. I bet it'll work fine after that.

Personally, I'd not touch the pivot screw. If it's really that bad, send it back to WH and tell them your concerns. They had it back to me within a week incl return shipping time.

hth, patrick
 
good idea. i'll try oil first. since i have militec on hand.

is the cf william henry not as good as the rest of them or something? with the damascus blade it is not an inexpensive knife. even though the ones with metal frames are even more money. i got this because the other two wh's i have i would not carry every day. they are too expensive and maybe also fragile because of all the "adornments" on them. all i would do with this is open letters anyways.


jay.
 
I happen to like the CF series. The handles are strong and durable. I used to worry about scratching them up with other stuff in my pockets, but I found after carrying for months that the CF is practically scratchproof. The price difference you describe betwn CF & Ti handled versions is simply a difference in the price of the material. Cf is likely less expensive that Ti, Ironwood, MOP, etc. The other parts of the knife, blade, lock, etc. are identical for all the models.

I'd not describe WH's as fragile, they certainly fall under the Gent's folder category, IMO, especially the one's I've owned (Kestrel & Monarch), but they are far from fragile. If you own some of the Special/Limited Editions with rare stones and/or handle materials, I'd probably be careful with them as well. They certainly wouldn't be used in the garden or cutting metal strapping or anything. However, they'll stand up to regular use with aplomp. My WH's are my workday EDC's as I wear a suit to work. I bought CF due to its ultra light weight, which works well with business attire. They are relegated to opening lots of mail, but also cardboard and other packing material. In this application, my WH is the perfect knife. I recently sold the Kestrel as I just wasn't carrying it that much. I tend to carry the Monarch more...I just love the button lock.

-pb
 
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