Can we hope for Titanium Para-Military 2

Molly-Coddle · May 13, 2012

While Military is a little too big for my hands I'm interested if there is any hope to see a Para-Military 2 with titanium handles in the near future?

We already have a Native with fluted ti handle but why not the Para2? I think that it will definitely be a pure win! It will not require any framelock inserts etc... And the design of Para2 is already tested by many users...

Dr Heelhook · May 13, 2012

It's been discussed before. Apparently it's doable but very costly to make such a knife, so it would end up being very expensive. Would be cool though.

Gadgetman7 · May 13, 2012

It has been discussed and stated that the cost would be high but I'd still love one. Like I posted in the other thread, I have a titanium Salsa with the compression lock and I'd love a Paramilitary. Besides, do you think it would be more than a fluted titanium military or Lionspy?

Jd4003 · May 13, 2012

Gadgetman7 said:
It has been discussed and stated that the cost would be high but I'd still love one. Like I posted in the other thread, I have a titanium Salsa with the compression lock and I'd love a Paramilitary. Besides, do you think it would be more than a fluted titanium military or Lionspy?

Don't know for sure, but it seems to me machining Ti scales for the compression lock would be a little more expensive than the relative simplicity of a framelock. I'd go for a Ti PM2 though! :thumbup:

Kesson · May 13, 2012

Personally I would love a integral compression lock titanium PM2 with a carbon fiber or colored G-10 back side. My biggest qualm with compression and liner locks is how they can get filled with dirt and debris and the ICL would solve that. I would even like it if the Ti was coated in something to give it grip and protect it but I know there are those who like the plain Ti and a coating would add to cost so I'm not holding my breath. There was a spyderco forum thread where someone had photoshopped a mockup of a Ti PM2 and it did look pretty cool. I'm not sure what the forum rules are regarding links but if you google "spyderco paramilitary 2 titanium" it should be the second link down. It was for me at least.

RevDevil · May 13, 2012

The integral compression lock tends to hurt when you are heavy cutting, the ATR while an awesome knife, just hurts whithout gloves.

hank_rearden · May 13, 2012

a standard PM2 but with a 4-inch military blade.

JNewell · May 13, 2012

RevDevil said:
The integral compression lock tends to hurt when you are heavy cutting, the ATR while an awesome knife, just hurts whithout gloves.

Yep, BTDT.

Tooling costs would be $$$$$$$, street price would match, and sales volume would probably be pretty lackluster.

NM08SRT8 · May 13, 2012

As long as its a Sprint run, people will buy it. I guarantee you.

At least do it as a by order request. Like a sign up sheet to be opened and closed in a duration of time, then start making them for those signed up.

RevDevil · May 14, 2012

NM08SRT8 said:
As long as its a Sprint run, people will buy it. I guarantee you.

At least do it as a by order request. Like a sign up sheet to be opened and closed in a duration of time, then start making them for those signed up.

It would be really nice if it were as easy as that.

Molly-Coddle · May 14, 2012

RevDevil said:
The integral compression lock tends to hurt when you are heavy cutting, the ATR while an awesome knife, just hurts whithout gloves.

The compression lock is a very reliable itself... So maybe it can be left in original form with some kind of steel liner... And G10 scales would be replaced with the fluted Ti for example? Like Spyderco did with ti Native leaving the original lock construction. This will also help to keep price lower... What do You think?

jball1125 · May 14, 2012

Complicated or not, Im in!

HKBM45 · May 14, 2012

They could just make it a regular ti framelock....

Doesnt need to be a comp lock. I say just make it a regular ti framelock and make the other scale G10 to keep weight down. I would have to buy one.

JNewell · May 14, 2012

NM08SRT8 said:
As long as its a Sprint run, people will buy it. I guarantee you.

At least do it as a by order request. Like a sign up sheet to be opened and closed in a duration of time, then start making them for those signed up.

The problem is that if you had to amortize the tooling costs over a sprint run, you'd be looking at a knife with a street price well into four digits. If it can't sell itself as a full-production knife, it's a dead end.

dark impaler · May 14, 2012

A vote from me for a RIL ti version of the para 2 and as a bonus- murdered. Keep the steel s30v...

RevDevil · May 14, 2012

Molly-Coddle said:
The compression lock is a very reliable itself... So maybe it can be left in original form with some kind of steel liner... And G10 scales would be replaced with the fluted Ti for example? Like Spyderco did with ti Native leaving the original lock construction. This will also help to keep price lower... What do You think?

If they made one, I'd buy a couple. I love the Para2. Only Sal and Eric know what the cost would be to make them, and the other details.

Igfourtwenty · May 14, 2012

Going along with what Molly said maybe they could do something like the titanium lum (Chinese) where it still had steel liners and titanium scales. They would have to change the liners to be a bit bigger though since I'm thinking nested liners with titanium might be too expensive.

Soulrack223 · May 15, 2012

Integral titanium compression lock would be awesome.

HKBM45 · May 16, 2012

dark impaler said:
A vote from me for a RIL ti version of the para 2 and as a bonus- murdered. Keep the steel s30v...

This looks great.

Id prefer a satin blade and stonewashed titanium and some other blade steel (something from CTS maybe).

Cant be too expensive. Id buy it for as much as $200.