Canister Question

indian george

indian george

Joined
Feb 15, 1999
Messages
11,566
Delbert Ealy and I was talking last week and he asked if you line the inside of the canister with SS foil would the can slip off the billet. My thoughts were (I know scary, thinking again)that everthing gets welded inside off the can. Can anyone verify this????
 
IG,
He told me you guys had a good conversation on the telephone...
I am trying to talk Delbert into maybe coming down from Michigan to one of our Hammer-ins...maybe in the spring...to do a demo for us!!!
It all depends on his work schedule, air fair prices...:)
 
YaYaYa..someday I hope to be a multi-hundred aire.....:D :D :D
Well if I can pull this off... for the club...I know I am at least a great bullsh*tter......:D
 
George, I think the foil would weld to the billet and the can. Bowie has said you can actually make cookie cutter molds out of SS foil and it'll weld just fine.

Mr. Buxton has smeared some good old Missery clay inside the can and it acts like a "halfast" mold release.

On a sad note, George, my scoot heads down the road with a new owner Friday morning. Goodbye to an era of my life...... whaaaaaaaaH! Gonna miss that old friend. :(
 
this may be a numb question,, but why not make the can out of
useable steel? and use it.. :confused:

edited to add
use that out side steel as the center layer as the cutting edge
when you fold it. say O1 :D
 
I.G. Its will all stick together, you tight azz, if you don't have clay use a little santinite, anything that will keep the can from sticking.

Dan, that will work, but its a lot easier for me just to use box tubing , then to try and make a high carbon box from flat stock. I don't know where I could buy high carbon box tubing. A lot of guys do just grind clean and restack the can, its usually so thin it doesn't affect anything anyway. Also when I do a can, I don't fold the contents. Usually its a pattern like a star or something and by folding it would distort what I'm trying to make, I usually weld, stretch, cube, cut and reweld. Always keeping the next billet equal size on all sides. I illinimate the can, I just coat with clay slurry and it comes off pretty easy.

Bill
 
I.G. Its will all stick together, you tight azz, if you don't have clay use a little santinite, anything that will keep the can from sticking.
Click to expand...
Oh, Find, Now you tell me. Why didn't you say something sooner??????:D
Fitzo; That sucks the big one.:( I hope I never go there, I would fell twice as bad if I sold my Scooters.:eek: :eek: It looks like you have to get rid of all the Tats. I can help you out and if you are still smoking I'll make it really HURT.
this may be a Dumb question,, but why not make the can out of
Click to expand...
Yep, you are right again Dan:confused: :confused: Even if you did it that way you would have to grind it off to see the pattern.;)
Well if I can pull this off... for the club...I know I am at least a great bullsh*tter......
Click to expand...
Coool, then we would call you Bs PW Rene Roy.
 
I.G. I told you about the clay coating a couple months ago, man your getting worse then Fitz. Damn old farts. :D :D

Bill
 
Bill, Please put it braille the next time. Didn't your Mamma tell you to respect your elders??? It is Mr. Ole Fart To you Sonny.:p :p
 
Bill he is A fart
that's just the vapors that your looking at, they havn't disapated yet:D :D
 
I don't have any exp. with cans, but with carbon migration, would the can not get hard. Or are you wanting rid of it for cosmetics?
Bill
 
I just noticed something that may be a point of confusion.

Most times that a guy is welding a billet in a can, he is going for the pattern that is the end-grain of the billet. In that case, what Dan suggested will work just fine...it's a lot of work to make the can...or a lot of work to get it off (6 of one, half dozen of the other).

I haven't tried the clay slurry trick yet. Looks like maybe Bill is good for something :p

On the other hand, if you're welding up chain like IG and J were talking about, then you want the pattern on the sides of the billet to show...and a can is always in the way in that case.

Nick
 
Hey guys. If you want a can that doesn't stick, go to your local muffler shop buy a piece of pipe, weld a bottom to it, fill it up,
? weld a top on and go for it . The sides wont stick. If you want a square can then squre the pipe up befor using.

Michael
 
Michael, What is special about the muffler pipe that it won't stick versus the usual thinwall square A36?

Please pardon me. Like Mr Butthead said, I forget stuff, and am a bit dense. Oh, pardon, that's BUXTON. See, he is right. :D I'm sorry. See, there's a story to this. Last night I said "I'm an a.h. sometimes" and Mr B answers "No, but you are a butthead." Payback! In public nonetheless.

George, fortunately all the ink is dragons, an eagle on my chest, and a big barebutt warrior with a sword on my back, so not having the scooter I just have to lose about 30 years and 100 pounds and get a skateboard! (Boy, wouldn't that be a grotesque sight!!) I can simply take off my shirt and moon people. Since Bill is right about me, I don't even have to do that, just take off my hat!:D
 
I'm not sure if anyone remembers but at one of George's hammer-ins I made an envelope out of SS heatTreating foil and filled it with damascus scraps and 1084 powder. I put it in the forge and let it heat for a while till it got up to temp and pressed it once to fuse weld everything together. It worked pretty well and the billett did not stick to the foil, I just peeled it off. It lasted long enough to get the first inital weld and then the billett was drawn out like you would a normal billett.
 
Originally posted by NickWheeler
I just noticed something that may be a point of confusion.

Most times that a guy is welding a billet in a can, he is going for the pattern that is the end-grain of the billet. In that case, what Dan suggested will work just fine...it's a lot of work to make the can...or a lot of work to get it off (6 of one, half dozen of the other).

I haven't tried the clay slurry trick yet. Looks like maybe Bill is good for something :p

On the other hand, if you're welding up chain like IG and J were talking about, then you want the pattern on the sides of the billet to show...and a can is always in the way in that case.

Nick
Click to expand...
thanks Nick a voice of reason :D the end grain way:D

But what I was trying to say,, explaining myself a bit more.
in doing it the way IG and J did. with the chain
if you use, say, the o1 for the can weld and then split it down the middle/center then put the
o1 sides together then weld them together
you'll have a O1 core for the edge and your pattern on the outside right?? maybe, yes, NO? :)
the O1 should be thin to work right or ground to thickness when cleaning it up to re-weld it.
it's more work yes but the steel is the foundation of the end result
:)
 
I am doing another canister today, but it is all welded up. The next time I'll try the Satanite and SS foil.
I just have to lose about 30 years and 100 pounds and get a skateboard! (Boy, wouldn't that be a grotesque sight!!) I can simply take off my shirt and moon people.
Click to expand...
Fitzo: I just had a visually on that, My God what a scare site. Bigfoot with Tats on a skateboard. Oh Ya!! with a ciggartte in his mouth. Still smoking Azzhole?????:mad: :mad: :mad:
Thanks for all the input Guys, you too Gary I mean Dan.:p :p
 
I'm not positve on the terminology , but the guy at my local shop says the metal the pipes are made out of have been Aluminumized. All I know for sure is that after you have your can welded up, you can peel the pipe off.

Michael
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top