Can't Find 5160 Data Sheet -

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I've been looking all over for a data sheet on 5160. Does anyone here have a link to one they can share?

Thanks.

RL
 
Blue Sky,

Yeah, that agrees with the very small amount of data I do have on it but I really need normalizing temperature too. I am guessing at about 1650 F normalizing but sure would like to see a vendor's data sheet before cooking the steel.

Thanks Blue.

RL
 
Mark, that's really not what I'm looking for but it sure is interesting. I have that reference book and it says nothing that I can find about HT specs for 5160.

Thanks and how is that big S7 coming??

RL
 
Well I hoped that it would help anyway. How is the big S7 coming...errr well the knife is fine. Ready to go except for one little problem. I can't make a handle that doesn't look like it was made by a three year old. I have ruined (unless I make some really small knives) most of the Bloodwood that I got. In hindsight I should not have started with that, but live and learn right. I put the knife away for a couple of days (went and got a jig saw) and I am going to give it another try tomorrow. Don't get me wrong I don't expect perfect but I was hoping for decent as I am pretty happy with how the blade turned out. Having fun all in all and I know that it is still all a learning experience for me at this point. Thanks for asking and hope to have something one way or the other soon. Sorry to be so longwinded. Mark
 
Mark,

Take all the time and patience you need for that handle work because I have seen your metal work and it deserves a good handle. You can and will do it. I know that from the grind I saw that you did.

RL
 
Thanks Syl. That's about the best I've seen so far. I see they specify normalize at 1600 - 1700 F. That's reassuring. I just wish I could find a vendor data sheet.

RL
 
Roger, I'll scan the pages out of the Heat Treaters Guide into PDF format for you tomorrow morning...anyone else want them too send me an email offline.

:)

-Darren
 
well, if it's for who I think it is, we should find some VIP data to go by! :) especially for that cutting contest.

-Darren

p.s. I'll be late morning and I'll fire up the scanner....

anyone else, be sure to shoot me an email...
 
That's a secret. I didn't want my name mentioned if it comes in last. :grumpy: :cool: Don't worry about late morning. Early morning will be noon for me.

WAIT A MINUTE. Now I know why the big guns didn't give me the info on 5160. :eek: :eek:
 
Here ya go, Roger, right out of the ASM manual:

5160, 5160H, 5160RH

5160 AISI 5160H AISI
Carbon 0.56 to 0.64 Carbon 0.55 to 0.65
Manganese 0.75 to 1.00 Manganese 0.65 to 1.00
Phosphorus 0.035 Max Silicon 0.15 to 0.35
Sulfur 0.040 Max Chromium 0.60 to 1.00
Silicon 0.15 to 0.30
Chromium 0.70 to 0.90

5160RH AISI
Carbon 0.56 to 0.64
Manganese 0.75 to 1.00
Silicon 0.15 to 0.35
Chromium 0.70 to 0.90

Considered a high-carbon alloy steel. As quenched hardness of 58 to 63 HRC. Used for a variety of spring applications, notably flat springs. Often uses Austempering as a method of heat-treating.

Forging max heat 2200 degrees F.
Do not forge below 1600 degrees F.

Normalizing - heat to 1600 F and cool in air.

Annealing – for predominately pearlite structure heat to 1525 F cool rapidly to 1300 F then cool to 1200 F at a rate not to exceed 20 F per hour – or, heat to 1525 F cool rapidly to 1245 F and hold for 6 hours.

For predominately spheroidized structure heat to 1380 F cool rapidly to 1300 F then cool to 1200 F at a rate not to exceed 10 F per hour – or, heat to 1380 F cool rapidly to 1245 F and hold for 10 hours.

Hardening – austenitize at 1525 F and quench in oil or polymer. Gas nitriding and ion nitriding are suitable processes.

Austempering - austenitize at 1555 F and quench in molten salt bath at 600 F. Hold for one hour, cool in air, needs no tempering, approximately 46 to 52 HRC is obtained.
 
Roger, scans of the data sheets for 5160, 6150 and 52100 sent via email just a few minutes ago...keep an eye out for them...

Anyone else want them, shoot me an email.

:)

-Darren
 
Sylvester said:
Me Me Me but I`ll just pick it up when I get moved
if thats ok Darren


Not a problem buddy, I should have the entire heat treaters guide scanned to pdf by then... at least the sections we're most interested in...

:)

-Darren
 
rlinger said:
Mark,

Take all the time and patience you need for that handle work because I have seen your metal work and it deserves a good handle. You can and will do it. I know that from the grind I saw that you did.

RL



Well then, no pressure on getting it right. ;)
 
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