Canvas vs linen

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I was just viewing a post on the Rat-5 when another member pointed out that the d2 version came in linen and the 1095 came in canvas. Which one is stronger and more durable? Also what is the difference?



Thanks
Bill
 
I don't think there's much of a difference in durabilty or strength, since the strength comes from the epoxy not the cloth.

Either could be sanded and smoothed, but I would expect the canvas to have a rougher 'grippier' finish.
 
I agree there's little if any difference in durability. I know the way Ontario does their Micarta that the canvas is "grippier", when dry. I think when damp they're both pretty "griptiliano".

On my Bark Rivers, there is NO difference in "gripado" between linen and canvas. They either use alot of epoxy or they finish the scales - both are smooth as silk (but still "gripable").
 
Bob W, thanks for the info. I like the canvas micarta thats in my HH, but I didn't know the differences between the two.
 
The difference is that linen is made from flax fiber (a certain type of plant also used for its oil [flax seed oil]), often linen is also made from cotton which is actually a misuse of the term but has become common practice, and canvas is made from hemp. It is not true that the stength comes from the epoxy. Without the fiber, the epoxy would be a lot weaker and without the epoxy the fiber would be simply a sheet of linen (canvas). In general several parameters increase the strength of the fiber reinforced material: the higher the fiber content WITHOUT the materia breaking up (so there is obviously an optimum content for each fiber), tensil strength of the fiber, directionality (woven fiber instead of stirred in fiber like in FRN) and hence length of the fiber.

As far as I know, tensile strength of the fiber/wooven product is slightly higher for hemp than for flax and it is most certainly higher than for cotton, so canvas mircarta should be slightly stronger. For an application like a knife handle, which, in comparison to other possible uses of the material is pretty low strain, I would be surprised if you would see any difference in strength between canvas and linen mircarta in actual use. Since the linen is finer, the linen mircarta has a slightly finer appearance and texture, but not quite as fine as paper mircarta.

Hope that helps.
 
My understanding is that it bears some similarity to formica (kitchen counter tops) or that it is a derivative there of.
 
Just from my casual observation, it seems that comparing my TAK with linen Micarata compared to the canvas on the RAT-5, the linen seems more dense, heavier and "slicker". The canvas just seemed grippier (is that a word?). As far as strength...I don't think you'll have a problem with either one.

ROCK6
 
My understanding is that it bears some similarity to formica (kitchen counter tops) or that it is a derivative there of.

Other way around, micarta pre-dates formica. The word formica actually is an abbreviation for "formerly micarta". How's that for trivia? :D
 
Other way around, micarta pre-dates formica. The word formica actually is an abbreviation for "formerly micarta". How's that for trivia? :D

You learn something new every day!! Thanks for that bit of trivia sodak, that is, if it's true:D Do I have to go to snoped to check up on you?
 
Well, this is directly from the Busse webpage. I remember reading that too, about the Formica.
 
"Other way around, micarta pre-dates formica. The word formica actually is an abbreviation for "formerly micarta". How's that for trivia?"

That is neat trivia.
 
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