Carbon Fiber Civilian

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Slatts

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Can't believe it, but maybe I can. This morning I witnessed a carbon fiber Civilian plain edge being sold on ebay. In the final minutes, I was tempted to put a bid on it at around $325. Good thing I didn't bother....in the final few seconds it was bid up to $560! Is anyone as stunned by that price as me? It's unbelievable what some people will pay for discontinued limited edition Spydies. I say unbelievable, but understandable if you want something bad enough I suppose.
 
That is pretty high, but like you said, if you want something bad enough.

I've been guilty of my fair share of those types of auctions.
 
They're en route now. Sometime this week if I'm lucky, probably be a little longer though. International shipping takes a while.
 
believe it or not I saw one on another forum a while back and it sold for $50 nib.I missed it by a little bit.
 
I bid $550, however the time ran out, preventing me from bidding further.
Congratulations to whomever outlasted my "final minute flurry"... :D

I have to admit, that when I get outbid, I become frustrated, and simply just bid in a mad rush, and I actually did not expect to go that high, and I'm unsure whether I'm happy to have not paid that much, or that I lost. :confused:

I wish more people would open up their auctions to international customers,
as I've said before, I am willing to pay alot of money just to get a knife I want, and right now I am interested in acquiring any Civilian variations I can find.

Edit; Am I stupid to have bid that much and lost, when I already own 2 CF Civilian's ???.... *shrugs*
I still want every Civie I can get my hands on, yet I'm "kinda" glad that I lost that ebay auction, since in my frustration, I was ready to go up to $700 for that Civie, and that would have been too much I think.
 
1gailt said:
believe it or not I saw one on another forum a while back and it sold for $50 nib.I missed it by a little bit.
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I would have loved to have seen that one.

I guess because I missed this CF Civilian, it just leaves me with more money to bid on another Spydie.... :D
 
Its auctions like that that give us such inflated ideas of what our old Spyders are worth! I have often thought about putting my CF plainedge Civilian up for sale, but have never known what price to put on it. Same with my "R" models. And the list goes on.

Interesting thing though, I have seen huge prices on ebay for a certain item then have seen the same item sell for less than half a week later.
 
jhillas said:
Interesting thing though, I have seen huge prices on ebay for a certain item then have seen the same item sell for less than half a week later.
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you're right and one of the reason for that is worldwide shipping. Foreign bidders are ready to pay a lot more for rare models, because they're impossible to find in our countries... and other knives are really expensive too.
for example a normal G10 SE Civilian in France cost something like 360US$ in France, so 200$ more for the rarest of all...
 
Last February I was at a little knife show here in the Missouri Ozarks. There was a custom knife seller there who had a CF, Plain edged Civilian, numbered with zipper pouch. He wouldn't sell it. But I finally got him to trade it to me for a stainless handled ATR and a used Titanium Bob Lum tanto folder.

My friend who went with me indicated at the time that I probably needed Psychiatric help for doing such a trade. Now it looks to me like it might have been my best trade this year. It seems like plain edged Civilians even with G-10 handles are very hard to find.

I wonder if anyone knows how many CF plain edged Civilians they made?
 
JD Spydo said:
I wonder if anyone knows how many CF plain edged Civilians they made?
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JD Spydo;
600 PE CF I believe.
1200 CF Civilian's - 600 PE / 25 LH - 600 SE / 25 LH

I think that's correct, and it's pretty cool that my CF/PE/LH is 1/25 worldwide.

Senate is correct, in that I live in Australia, and I am willing to pay alot more for a knife I really like, although I definately went overboard bidding for that CF Civilian, yet I was outbid anyway.

Today I just recieved what was meant to be a CF Civilian in SE from the U.S., yet I think I may have gotten something different, in that it is a CF Civilian body, but more like a Matriarch blade, so if anyone can help me, I have posted pictures in the Spydie Forum....... I really need help to understand what I just recieved, any help is most appreciated.
 
To my knowledge all Civilians have the same blade shape. The Matriarch is a bit smaller and on a knife with FRN scales. There should be no confusing or mix/match between the two.

Can you take a comparison picture, say with one of the Civilians you already have next to it?
 
600 PE CF I believe.
1200 CF Civilian's - 600 PE / 25 LH - 600 SE / 25 LH

I think that's correct, and it's pretty cool that my CF/PE/LH is 1/25 worldwide


I have a Left Hand CF Plain Edge and has a high number on it. It is not numbered 1-25 could this be correct?
 
jhillas;

I know the difference between the Matriarch and the Civilian, yet the item I recieved has a slightly shorter tip, and is similar in every way to the blade of the Matriarch, and I was considering the possibility that either someone had swapped the blade of the CF Civilian, and replaced it with that of a Matriarch, or that the tip had been reground, or something completely different, or thereof. So it was not a case of myself being confused on the knife being either a Civilian or a Matriarch, it's more like a Matriarch blade in a carbon fibre Civilian body, and exactly that it is........
So my main objective was to recieve assisstance, to sort out whether I have been decieved or whatnot, in either it being tampered with, such that the blade had been swapped, reground, or whathaveyou.

jhillas; I posted several pictures on the "Spydie Forum" if you care to see what I was trying to comprehend (Thread: Civilian CF HELP!!!!), and Sal Glesser actually mentioned that the Civilian blades are hand ground, and therefore can differ slightly from knife to knife, and he also went so far as to state that the pictures of both the knife in question (Civilian CF/SE), and my Civilian CF/PE/LH), looked fine from what he could see. However I also stated that there was a slight "chip" or "dent" on the RH-edge of the blade, and from the information gathered, this may well be a marking to show that the knife is infact a Spyderco "factory second", and this would explain both the "notch" in the blade, and the difference in the tip of the blade. I am attempting to capture a decent depiction of the notch, so that it can be determined properly whether it is indeed a factory second purchased from Golden.

Southpaw; Yes your CF Civilian PE/LH is fine, and is exactly how it should be, and as mine is, except for contrasting numbers. The numbering on the blade often depicts those nubmers of the Spyderco Collector's Club, which are #1 through to #200, and I'm unsure, but the rest of the first run probably has been numbered beyond the Collector's Club, since I have seen a CF Civie PE with the number #406. Mine is #132V (V symbolising "Variant").

So basically, your knife is correct, and it still is definately only 1 of 25 left handed carbon fibre Civilian's in the world. Very cool indeed!!!! :thumbup:

I actually purchased mine only several months ago, at an unbeatable price, and I had no idea of what it was, nor what Spyderco was, and I actually had to ask the forum whether or not it was worth purchasing, and due to the obvious answers of "Definately!!!!", and "It's most probably gone!!!! at that price", I decided "what the hell", and purchased it, and when I recieved it,.... It was love at first sight, and my Spyderco addiction was spawned after being bitten by the "Spyder-Bug" (courtesy of the Civilian).... :)
 
this may be a stupid 'q but why in the world would anyone bid over $500 for a civvy??

there are so many other knives i would 50X rather have than a civvy at that price, lol, makes no sense at all to me.
 
SIFU1A said:
this may be a stupid 'q but why in the world would anyone bid over $500 for a civvy??

there are so many other knives i would 50X rather have than a civvy at that price, lol, makes no sense at all to me.
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No offence, but it is kind of a stupid question, in some respects....

You state that there are so many other knives you would rather have than a civvy, and if this is the case than of course it makes no sense to you, since you obviously do not regard the Civilian as some other individuals do, so in that case... why would you bid $500 for a knife that does not really appeal to you ???

Common sense really,... your question has been answered by the next sentence in your post.

Why would anyone in the world bid over $500 for a Civilian ??
There obviously are reasons, and some people obviously do feel that it is worth bidding that much for, since they, including myself did,.. but then again, you wouldn't understand these reasons,... because, it would make no sense to you at all,..... and you would rather some other knife "50X" more than a Civilian.

So let me ask, would you bid $500 for one of those knives which you would rather "50X" more than a Civilian ???

If so, then why ???

These may seem like stupid questions, but they are yours, and once you figure them out, you will have your answers, and all it took was a little expansion on your post........

...but then again, there's no such things as stupid questions......

....... only stupid people. ;)
 
I think 25 left handed is a bit low. If thats the case, than every single one has probably been on Ebay at least once.

For some reason the following numbers stick in my head, but I can't remember where I heard this. I could be totally wrong.

CF LH PE- 150
CF RH PE- 600
CF LH SE- 150
CF RH SE- 600

Don't quote me on that though, I have a pretty bad memory.
 
Just wondering, but I've two of the CF RH PE Civvies, one is numbered '620'. The other is unmarked. Is there a possiblity that there are more than the mentioned 600 CF RH PE out there? I've seen others marked with numbers up to 640.
 
infamous said:
No offence, but it is kind of a stupid question, in some respects....

You state that there are so many other knives you would rather have than a civvy, and if this is the case than of course it makes no sense to you, since you obviously do not regard the Civilian as some other individuals do, so in that case... why would you bid $500 for a knife that does not really appeal to you ???

Common sense really,... your question has been answered by the next sentence in your post.

Why would anyone in the world bid over $500 for a Civilian ??
There obviously are reasons, and some people obviously do feel that it is worth bidding that much for, since they, including myself did,.. but then again, you wouldn't understand these reasons,... because, it would make no sense to you at all,..... and you would rather some other knife "50X" more than a Civilian.

So let me ask, would you bid $500 for one of those knives which you would rather "50X" more than a Civilian ???

If so, then why ???

These may seem like stupid questions, but they are yours, and once you figure them out, you will have your answers, and all it took was a little expansion on your post........

...but then again, there's no such things as stupid questions......

....... only stupid people. ;)
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when ya buy some custom knives there is a reasnoble possibility that they may increase in value (ie emerson customs/strider customs, etc) while i think at that price ya are in the ozones as far as value on most any spyderco ie i dont think ya could ever get your $$ back outta the thing, if ya think thats a great deal go buy 20 of them matters none to me, but i honestly cant think of 1 spydie i would ever even consider spending jack like that on myself, some would say stupid is as stupid does.

if ya ever wanna buy a spydie give me a shout first i have quite a few of them lol.
 
SIFU1A said:
when ya buy some custom knives there is a reasnoble possibility that they may increase in value (ie emerson customs/strider customs, etc) while i think at that price ya are in the ozones as far as value on most any spyderco ie i dont think ya could ever get your $$ back outta the thing, if ya think thats a great deal go buy 20 of them matters none to me, but i honestly cant think of 1 spydie i would ever even consider spending jack like that on myself, some would say stupid is as stupid does.

if ya ever wanna buy a spydie give me a shout first i have quite a few of them lol.
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I know of a Spyderco Police model that went for about 10,000 last year :) Better than a Strider, Emerson, Reeve or most any others I know of.
 
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