Carbon steel suggestions...please vote for yours?

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Hello Folks,

First, I recently required a spyderco starmate, and I absoluteley love it. It replaced my BM AFCK and Stryker in three days.
Second, I used to think Benchmade was a tad better in quality, but now I think spyderco is a lot better in the same pricerange.

But the point of this topic...Benchmade satified a whole lot of people by introducing M-2 as Folder blades, especially the people who are kinda traditional, and think that if it rusts, it is a better knife (over here, the best potatoe-knives are marked Not-rustfree, as if it were a commercial slogan).
I used the CPM 440V blade, and I know it's quit expensive steel, but for fun, I made a 52100 blade and copied the grind as good as I could. The 52100 is a roughly forged fixed knife, so it will be tougher then a folder, but it held an edge a lot better, while being easier to resharpen after some nailcutting. I didn't do this with my starmate, because I think this falls under "abuse" and I don't wanna wreck up my favourite folder. I do the brass rod test, and the edge on the 52100 blade had a ding, the starmates edge would have been chipped.
I could remove the ding by flattening the edge a few times on a smooth stainless steel plate.

In price, a 440V blade would have costed me about 15 x what a 52100 blade costs.

About the non-stainless section, 52100 has some chrome, and if you keep the blade dry (wipe down after wet use) it won't corrode.
A day under in salt water ruins the mirrorpolish, but 5 minutes on a buffer fixed that.

Now, Sal and company, I would like to ask if you can consider using a tool steel, it would help setting your reputation as working knives, especially in conservative mids, where spyderco as high-tech folders don't really come off the ground.

If you people should cast one vote for a tool steel to be used by spyderco in the future, which would you prefer? And on which existing spyderco folder?

Try to imagine a starmate or a military, even an endura in carbon steel... I would buy them all over again.

I think it would be interesting to see what you people think, and not only for me, but also for Sal.

I hope this text makes sense...I'm not a native english speaker.

greetz and thanks in advance, Bart.

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Hi bart,

I would like a hi-carbon Spydie, though I doubt there 'll ever be one.

I would like one of the following steels: A2, D2 or D3. The last ones are still somewhat stainless I think. I honestly think that something like D2 would be a better alround steel than CPM 440 or CPM 420. Better thoughness and easer to sharpen.

Cheers,
JD
 
All americans are still asleep...So dutch people answer ...better...closer to home.

Thanks for your reply.
Personally I think I would go for D-3. It's quit cheap and easy to Heat-treath, and available in the sizes they need.
Much better in a folder then CPM440V.

greetz, Bart.

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One nitpick: CPM-440V and CPM-420V are "tool" steels. But since I know what you mean -- high carbon non-stainless steels, so I'll get over it.
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Personally I think that Spyderco should stick to trying to drive forward with more high-tech stuff -- it is a specialty knifemaking company and that is their niche in the market. I want to see BG-42, maybe CPM-S90V, and more VG-10.

That said, I would be interested in seeing a small test run of D-2 folders to see how they would work and hold up in the real world. Which model? The C48 Wegner of course. :-)

[This message has been edited by Carlos (edited 12-19-2000).]
 
I woul love to see Spyderco do plain uncoated carbon steel knives. My two all time favorites are the Calypso Jr. and the Blackhawk. I would purchase these again. I like the patina that plain steel gets. I don't mind that these require some care. I like the way the knives of old (before stainless) took an edge.



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Uncoated carbon steel? I'll take a Delica and an Endura in M2!
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[This message has been edited by Bernie (edited 12-26-2000).]
 
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