Carbon V or 1095

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Which is a better steel, carbon v or 1095 and what makes one better than the other?
 
Hello,

My experiance in the field has been for a givin day and work load,,,building shelters,
cutting/chopping fire wood,,building field expidient trap/tools,,,the 1095 can more than hold its own against CarbonV.

my .02

Allen Blade
 
So has everyone come to the concensus that Carbon V actually has Vanadium in it? I missed that. I've heard 5160, 0176, even 50100 (I think), but I didn't think that any of the speculated steels had Vanadium in them. Which, to me, would say that 1095 would be just as good, if treated properly.

Enlighten me, please. Seriously.

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iktomi
 
I haven't had experiences with Carbon V, but 1095 I have. Holds and edge real well and is somewhat easy to sharpen when needed using the Spyderco Sharpmaker. But, it does rust easy too!

Just clean and oil after each use, and it will hold up well!
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Mark

 
According to the Cold Steel catalog:

"... Carbon V, a high carbon, low alloy cutlery grade steel ..."

Forget the vanadium.

Cold Steel also likes to black-coat their Carbon V for protection, because it is not stainless.
 
rockspyder --

Carbon V is -- or at one time was -- 50100-B. The "B" indicates that the 50100 is modified with vanadium. So many serious insiders have confirmed this for me that I'm pretty much convinced it was true, and probably still is true, that Carbon V is 50100-B.

Joe
 
Ahhh... well then, Carbon V it is. Another question: Is 50100-B pretty much the same composition as 50100, except adding a bit of Vanadium? Well, actually, let me be more specific. What about the carbon content of 50100 and/or 50100-B?

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iktomi

Nevermind. Went and looked it up. 50100, 52100, and 50100-B should all have about the same amount of Carbon, 0.95% to 1.10% (according to the 52100 listing in Spyderco's Steel Chart). The 50100 just has less chromium.

[This message has been edited by rockspyder (edited 04-27-2000).]
 
Anyone want to speculate on the other steel that is probably the exact same thing but with a different name/number from an old respected name?

Hint, Cold Steel and this other company both have batches made especially for them.

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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com

Talonite Fire

"Many are blinded by name and reputation, few see the truth" Lao Tzu
 
rockspyder -- Right. In the AISI designations, typically those last digits give a ballpark estimation of the amount of carbon. 50100, last three digits = 100, thus around 1.00 % carbon. Same general rule with other AISI steels, like 1095.

Marion -- Have you checked out http://www.bladeforums.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000263.html Will doesn't spill the beans on their extra ingredient, but does confirm some about 0170-6

Joe
 
Well, they're both pretty good steels, althoiugh I think I would give Carbon V the edge (sorry, that just slipped out), possibly due to the specialized heat treat Lynn Thompson claims to have developed for it.
Marion, a while back I created a bit of a hissy-fit in the Camillus forum, I think, when I hinted that C*mill*s might be using the same steel in its new B*cker line as C*rb*n *... so I won't venture to speculate any more. (And if they do, it's a darn fine choice in my opinion, having peeled more than one moose and several deer with a Master Hunter in Carbon V).
 
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