Carbon V vrs: AUS8A

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I am looking for a small fixed blade and the Kobun seems to fit the bill. It's offered in Carbon V and AUS8A. Despite the possiablity of rust, what are the advantages/disadvanges of one over the other?

Also... are there any knives similar to this that anyone would reccomend looking into.

Thanks alot.
 
Both are excellent steels, as heat treated by Cold Steel. Carbon V is very tough, holds a great edge, is easy to sharpen and will rust readily unless you take a little care. AUS 8 won't hold an edge quite as well, but is not prone to rust or pit, and is also easy to sharpen. It may not hold an edge as well as ATS 34 but may be a bit tougher. Both are good 'real world' choices.
 
By a little care do mean a light coating of oil or would a gun care product like Sheath rust inhibitor work?
 
Have abused and neglected Carbon V SRK and Master Hunter for years. Often leaving one or the other unused in humid conditions without any rust prevention measures and have not seen any rust on either. Just put them away clean. Have seen easier knives to sharpen (not impossible, just took longer than other knives I have) but they both hold an edge well. They are both 10 years old or so, don't know if Carbon V has changed over that time. Both are seconds and have worked well. The SRK spent two years with a friend, who is an MP, getting very abused.

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What is it about a bit of rust that seems to terrify people these days ? Doesn't anyone own and use tools anymore ? Almost all of my tools are carbon or tool steel, and although some are chrome plated none of the edged tools are and they work just fine. My wife has brought home planes, chisels, bits, and such from garage sales, most covered in rust and decades old, and with a bit of steel wool or scotch brite and oil they clean up just fine, just like all of my other tools. It rains in the Pacific Northwest, people need to use tools outdoors sometimes, and they work fine year after year.


Ahhhhh. Rant mode off :^)
 
Keeping a carbon steel blade free from rust is not difficult. Keep it clean, apply some Vaseline petroleum jelly (or generic), mineral oil, or use Tuf Cloth. Break Free is also good at prserving carbon steel, dries nice, doesn't gunk up.
 
Thanks for your input everyone. I think I'm going to get the Carbon V and treat it like a would a gun. I have never had one get any rust on it so I must be doing something right.
 
Johno :

What is it about a bit of rust that seems to terrify people these days ?

Unless you are working in a very extreme enviroment and/or are very careless, rusting is only a cosmetic effect. Why should this effect your choice of tool use? Well it shouldn't unless you buy your tools based on how they look rather than how they perform. This is fairly rare for tools outside the knife industry but very common in it.

-Cliff
 
Actually, the rust on stainless steel is worse than on carbon steel. Tiny pits tend to form, and enlarge in both diameter and depth. This can adversely affect the steel permanently, depending on the depth of the pits, whereas carbon steel, as noted above, is relatively unharmed by rust.

Walt
 
Rust is a weird thing. I know people who never bother maintaining their O-1, which should be fast-rusting, and never see the slightest rust. Other folks, even in the same area and climate, report seeing rust with even the slightest let-up in maintainance.

Here's my story about Cold Steel's Carbon V, although I've never heard anyone else report similar results. About 8 years ago, I bought 2 SRKs, one for my buddy and one for myself. Both knives were very sharp when I bought them. I probably tested by touching the edge with my thumb, or doing a quick shaving test on my arm. Note that both these tests cause localized skin/blade contact, but not contact along the entire blade. A year or so later, neither my buddy nor I had used the knives. He takes his out of the box, then calls me up to complain that I gave him a dull knife. So I take mine out of the box, and sure enough, the edge is dull. Micro-rusted right in the box, is the only explanation I can think of.

Despite that experience, I love Carbon V and the way it performs. You didn't say how you're going to use your knife, but if it includes lots of hard use and actual cutting, I'd go with Carbon V, provided you're willing to do some light maintenance. If you're going to throw it in your car and forget about it for long periods of time, 8A might be the better choice.

Joe
 
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