Carnivour GAGS on White Lightning...Film at 11:00

misque · Feb 9, 2000

I gave my Carnivour the tune up as prescribed by another Forumite on an earlier REKAT Forum thread.
No problem.
A great knife turned into an even greater knife.
Action is smooth and the knife flings open with a push on the thumbstud like a well lubed linerlock.
Absolutely love it.
Now, last night, I decided to put a drop of White Lightning on the pivot to slick up the action even more.
Worked like a dream.
Well, after work today, I grab my Carny and proceed to flick it open. Surprise!! The action was GUMMED UP. I nearly sliced my thumb on the non-moving blade. I had to use two hands to open the knife and close it and open it and... DRAT!!
Can someone tell me what happened here?
No other type of lube was used on the knife upon re-assembly and the teflon washers worked like a dream all the way up until I lubed it with WL.
The knife did not get carried, just put back in it's resting place.

WARNING!! PLEASE READ AND HEED THE FOLLOWING!!
So, in what I can only describe as an act of utter stupidity, I sprayed some GumOut Carb and Choke Cleaner on the pivot to get the crap out of it. Well, this stuff got on my G-10 scales and have now discolored the scales to a nasty and completely unappealing gray color. And it will not wash off! DRAT!

If I cannot get the scales back to normal, I guess I will be replacing them with some stabilized Ironwood scales I have lying around out in the shop, or maybe the 1/4" G-10 scales or some Cocobolo or...
But, I really don't wanna do this.
Geez!

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MICKEY77 · Feb 9, 2000

This happens all the time with white lightning it hardens up into waxy like film after awile. It is part of the procces it shuld chaff away if you work with it..
Also now that you added that gum off stuff I dont know what that will do. so maybe smeone else will??

Mike Turber · Feb 9, 2000

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I received a case of White Lightning as a sample. Well I tried it on a few knives and could not stand the milky white film it left behind. Sorry it may be great for bikes but not knives IMHO.

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JH225 · Feb 9, 2000

Sure don't need any glasses to see that Mike, I can read that from the next room

I personally have found that Rem-Oil works better than Tuff-Glide on the pivots of polished actions.

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bcurran · Feb 10, 2000

Hey, I believe I can help with the DISCOLORING of the G-10. I believe what you have done is Degreased or removed the oil from the surface of the G-10. I guess you could say you "dried it out". Try some light oil on the G-10 an wipe off the excess. SHOULD work for ya. Same thing has happened to me while cleaning my GLOCK in mineral spirits. Turns the gun metal and plastic a nice powdery grey. A little oil cures the "prob". Degreasers don't harm the plastic or G-10, just uglifies em.

Walt Welch · Feb 12, 2000

Tuf-Glide is a thin film corrosion inhibitor; it has minimal lubricant properties. Sentry offers Smooth-Kote, which is MoS2 suspended in an isopropanol carrier. It dries to a black film. For more high pressure bearing surfaces, their Hi-Slip grease, also MoS2 based, works well.

The problem with MoS2, of course, is that it is black and slimy, and gets everywhere. If this is a problem, try a synthetic grease with Teflon, such as the type Chris Reeve supplies for his knives.

Hope this helps. Walt

Biginboca · Feb 12, 2000

Ditto what bcurran said.
I spilled acetone on an older benchmade with G-10 scales and ended up with discolored scales. But I was able to remedy the problem entirely by wiping the scales with WD-40.
Take Care,
Al

misque · Feb 12, 2000

Great ideas! Thanks guys!

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yeedude · Feb 12, 2000

Mr. Turber is absolutely correct - the White Lightning stuff works great for cycle chains because it dries to a white film that doesn't attract dirt, dust and the like. Unfortunately, said dry film gunks up tight tolerances on such things as folders. I've found that polymer bushings and the like aggravate the problem. Just say no (to WL) for pocketknives!

sing · Feb 13, 2000

Hmmmm.... I just discovered my Crawford canivore RL is not holding tight anymore, failing consistently on a moderate tap. I use white lightening. Wondered if I gummed up the internal works of the lock...?

I may have to take it apart and have a looksee rather than sending it back. Don't really want to have this knife outa my hands for too long.

sing

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Jeff Clark · Feb 13, 2000

Carb cleaner is primarily xylene and will attack many plastics, particularly styrene plastics. You might need to refinish a surface damaged by xylene, go through a fine polish with very fine sand paper and steel wool, then buff. Another trick can be to apply a car wax with ultra fine steel wool.

Blades · Feb 13, 2000

So I could use Carb cleaner and some masking tape to put stripes on my G10 mini-AFCK handle. Hmm...

Was it a real ugly grey G10???

Blades

speedrck · Feb 13, 2000

I 've discovered a great way to clean the grit out of a folders action without having to disassemble the knife. Use hot water in a waterpic. The well directed high pressure hot water really blows the crud and grit out. I then dry with a hairdryer and add a drop of FP-10 to the moving parts and wipe off any excess. All done in less than 5 minutes, give it a try.

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misque · Feb 13, 2000

Blades,
I generally like grey, but this is a real ugly grey, to me anyway.

Speedrck,
The WaterPic is an especially cool idea.

sing,
The problem you describe sounds like the WL has gummed up the workings on your Carny. Check out speedrck's solution. Sounds like a good one. I will try not to disassemble my Carny anymore as I really don't like chasing that spring across the room.

WD40 has restored the original black color and Thanks to all for the advice.
White Lightning is definitely on my "Do not recommend" list. May work for bikes, but do not use it on your folders. 'Nuff said.

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