Case 6445R questions about scale material.

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Morning folks, I was asked a question by a friend and as always if I don't know the answer I try to find out not only for them but myself as well, we're always learning. ;)

Here's his message and accompanying pics, hopefully the fine people of the traditional forum shed some light on his question.

hi Ted, maybe you can help me . I came across a vintage case 6445r in rough black , I hot pin tested it and there was no melt, so my question is , did Case make their rough black handles out of bone during this time period???

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Ted,

I'm no expert by any means so please take this with a grain of salt. I think Rough Black had a different jigging pattern than the knife in your photo. I believe the covers on that knife are Imitation Bone. Not Delrin but something similar.
 
I don't think it's Staminawood; looks 'blacker' than any of that I've seen, and I'm also thinking Case didn't use Staminawood prior to 1965, at the earliest. The tang stamp on this knife indicates the prior period, from 1940-'64. If the knife actually has a stamped pattern number, that would indicate 1950 or later (Case didn't stamp pattern numbers on blades until 1950 (maybe late '49).

One of the collecting guides I often refer to (*1) shows that Case used bone on some of the 6445R knives in the 1940-'65 period; the guide refers to just 'Bone' (don't know what color) and 'Red Bone' for those. The same guide also lists both 'Rough Black' and 'Black Composition'*2 handles in 1940-'50 period for this knife. Case might've been experimenting with a couple or more synthetic materials then, but I don't know. Case didn't start using true Delrin until 1967 (on the original 2138 Sod Buster), so earlier synthetics might not respond the same to 'melt tests' and such.

The pics look like synthetic to me, as I don't see any visible pores or grain usually seen with bone. I don't think I've ever seen bone as dark or uniformly colored either; bone is almost always sort of blotchy or uneven, in how it takes a stain/dye. Examining it under very, very bright light might help, as bone will usually show some depth (as if looking into glass or polished stone), and this will also reveal more variation in color/darkness, whereas synthetics usually are more opaque and still look like uniformly-colored 'plastic' under bright light.

*1 = 'Official Price Guide to Collector Knives', Fourteenth Edition, by C. Houston Price (2004)

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Looking online at Google Books search results, there's a pic of a 6445R on page 159 of Steve Pfeiffer's book (*2), with what appears to be identical 'jigged black composition' handles. Even the jigging appears to be the same. If I were betting, I'd think that's what they are.

*2 = 'Collecting Case Knives: Identification and Price Guide'


David
 
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The knife is fine - the handle material is a jigged black synthetic that is quite a bit different as compared to the "gumfuddy" or rough black handle material commonly used by Case in the 1940's era.

I have owned a number of 6445 R patterns identical to that one. My guess is that this material may have been an early plastic that replaced the rough black on some knives. I personally have only seen this specific material on the 6445 R pattern and the 6345 pattern, in both the Tested and XX stamps.

Attached pic is a Tested 6345 1/2 that I just sold with the same material.
 

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If it's synthetic will it melt with a hot pin test or is it more like a micarta that'll burn under high temp but not with a hot pin, especially the old micarta?
 
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