Case and Queen 100% U.S.A. ?

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in another thread in this forum it is stated that some German knife companies ( Kissing Crane and Boker are mentioned) outsource some of their knives to be made in China or Italy, but still have their blades stamped "Solingen Germany". that is, you might be buying a Chinese made knife fraudulently sold as German made.
can anyone state for sure that Case and Queen knives are all 100% U.S.A. made?
 
Yes...sort of. ALL Queen and Case knives are currently made in the USA, the only time they are not 100% made in the USA is when they have Mother Of Pearl, Abalone or certain exotic wood scales that are not native to the continental US.

Queen's parent company Ontario knives does import some knives under that name, but not Queen itself.
 
As far as I know Case and Queen brand knives ( unless otherwise specified) are made in the US. Case did have a few models made in Germany , but they were advertised as such.

I bought a Queen Amber Bone Stockman a few weeks ago and the package and blade are marked U.S. ( and the quality is pretty nice too)

But I can tell you there's a few brands out there using the words "Solingen" and "Germany" very loosely.

For instance some Hen & Rooster models are made in China , but they advertise them as being made of "German Steel" , ironically the same company also owns the Steel Warrior brand and they advertise those knives as being made of the same "quality German Steel " as Hen & Rooster...
 
As far as I know the Case's made in Germany were stamped with Germany.
I am only aware of some in 1989 maybe 1990. (Parker era).
 
As stated above, Case knives are 100% made in the USA except a few made in Germany and marked as such. There regular line of pocket knives are made in Bradford, Pa. I have spent sereral days in the last 9 years milling around out in that plant talking to the work people and seen them doing it. It is something they take pride in. If they were made in China I wouldn't be involved with them PS I buy Ford trucks.
 
rprocter said:
it is stated that some German knife companies ( Kissing Crane and Boker are mentioned) outsource some of their knives to be made in China or Italy, but still have their blades stamped "Solingen Germany".
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Can anyone substantiate this? And, WHICH Kissing Crane and Bokers are allegedly made in China?

BTW, Tony, I drive Ford too.
 
rprocter said:
in another thread in this forum it is stated that some German knife companies ( Kissing Crane and Boker are mentioned) outsource some of their knives to be made in China or Italy, but still have their blades stamped "Solingen Germany". that is, you might be buying a Chinese made knife fraudulently sold as German made.
can anyone state for sure that Case and Queen knives are all 100% U.S.A. made?
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IIRC the town of Solingen has very strict laws about the use of its name on cutlery.

I highly doubt, without good proof showing otherwise, that Boker engages in the sort of practice you describe.
 
mnblade said:
Can anyone substantiate this? And, WHICH Kissing Crane and Bokers are allegedly made in China?

BTW, Tony, I drive Ford too.
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Kissing Crane is slowly introducing Chinese versions of their traditional patterns including the Stiletto ( which is now made in Italy).

AFAIK Boker is marketing Chinese traditional pattern only under the 'Magnum" brand.

Also IMO the closest thing I've seen to deception is the Owl Head Brand knives listed on Ebay. They are tang stamped "Munich Germany", the Ram's Horn Sowbelly pattern is exactly the same as a Chinese S&W I own.

It's not a bad knife , but I don't think it's made in Germany.
 
There Have Been A Lot Of Nasty Rumor Going Around About Case And China, These Are Absolutly False. Case Has Nothing Done In China. The Only Thing That Doesn't Come From Here Are The Handle Materials. The Problem With Rumors Are If They Are Repeated Enough Then People Start Beleiving Them. People Would Do Well To Shut The Hell Up If They Don't Know What They Are Talking About.
 
The Last Confederate said:
Yes...sort of. ALL Queen and Case knives are currently made in the USA, the only time they are not 100% made in the USA is when they have Mother Of Pearl, Abalone or certain exotic wood scales that are not native to the continental US.

Queen's parent company Ontario knives does import some knives under that name, but not Queen itself.
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As far as I know, the bone and stag for handles are also imported. I believe that bone for Case handles has always been imported from South America. Delrin was used a lot in the 1970's to replace bone because bone imports were slowed due to hoff and mouth disease in South America.
 
Case buys some of their handle material outside the U.S., but they jig and dye the bone themselves, last time I was there!
And I buy Ford trucks also. I have an F-250, and a shorty Ranger for off road!
 
Ok since we are on this topic here is a trivia question for you guys.....

True or False

Case at one time had some cutlery products made in Japan, and so marked. Not accessories, sharpeners, or sheaths, but actual items of cutlery.
 
knifeaholic said:
As far as I know, the bone and stag for handles are also imported. I believe that bone for Case handles has always been imported from South America. Delrin was used a lot in the 1970's to replace bone because bone imports were slowed due to hoff and mouth disease in South America.
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Your absolutely right, I forget them because it's such a common thing. Virtually all bone handles are from cow shin bone imported from Argentina and Sambar Stag is largely from India.
 
knifeaholic said:
True or False

Case at one time had some cutlery products made in Japan, and so marked. Not accessories, sharpeners, or sheaths, but actual items of cutlery.
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Wow...that's a tough one, I've seen German made Case knives, but never one with Japan on it.

Can't wait to see an answer!
 
knifeaholic said:
Ok since we are on this topic here is a trivia question for you guys.....

True or False

Case at one time had some cutlery products made in Japan, and so marked. Not accessories, sharpeners, or sheaths, but actual items of cutlery.
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Trick question, right??
 
well, it's nice to know that Case knives are U.S.A. made, and Queen too.
the confusion (confounding) lies with knives made in Germany. there are posts in this forum stating that some of the knives stamped "Solingen Germany" are actually being made in italy or china. i suppose it is rumor at this point, but troubling and conceivable given the rather low price of some Solingen German knives.
outsourcing of knife manufacture is standard; but this, if true, is serious deception.
 
rprocter said:
the confusion (confounding) lies with knives made in Germany. there are posts in this forum stating that some of the knives stamped "Solingen Germany" are actually being made in italy or china. i suppose it is rumor at this point ... but this, if true, is serious deception.
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Indeed it is rumor. And you've done nothing constructive here, you just furthered this (by definition) unsubstantiated rumor. :thumbdn:
 
mnblade, i am not trying to propogate a rumor, but find out if there is any substance to it. i collect U.S.A. and German made knives (Boker, Eye Brand, Hen & Rooster, Fight'n Rooster, Bulldog). i believe it is a legitimate question. consumer deception is nothing new in our ever competitive world. ( "buyer beware" is an old expression).
i want my knives to be authenic. if they are not what they are sold as, then i don't want to collect any more of them.
just as MR. Bose is able to state absolutely that Case does NOT outsource any of it's knives, i believe there may well be members of this forum who could give some definitive information with regard to German brands. roland
 
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